Wait...He Married WHO After His Wife Passed Away?!

Ajouté : 2026-06-06

[00:00:00]And I used to be telling him like, I really wanted to drag her today. God is working on me. I'm about to drag her about the church. If she touch you again, I'mma kill her. I'mma kill her.

[00:00:14]>> Gather my people. Gather. Put your ear.

[00:00:18]We have a meeting now. Guys, listen. As I promised y'all in my last video, we are going to watch quite an interesting story today. We are. I promise you this and I promise you I was coming back quickly and I am. But before we move on, I want to say something to some of you peeps. Now, I never have this. I don't know what it is, but today something just touched my spirit and told me, "Listen, you got to say this." For the people that are easily triggered cuz I'm going to talk to my people that are battling depression right now. So, if you are triggered by this, come back in 45 seconds. Yes. Log off. All right. Now people listen, we have a lot of new family members on here. The unfiltered fam is growing and some people they just know we're like cutting up, kicking it, you know, having fun and you know that's what I like to do. But some of you, some of the day ones know there's a whole another side to me. And today I got it on my heart to just say something to the people that are currently going through depression. Now guys, I know it is easy for me to say listen, pray to God and then you know he will pull you through because that is what he did for me and is still doing for me to this day. But that's what I believe in. Now you could very well believe in something else.

[00:01:31]Could be. A lot of you don't know that I have been have been I have to say have been battling with severe depression. And when I say severe guys, like severe as of I don't want to be here.

[00:01:46]Now I've been through a lot in life. My brother as well, a lot of you know my brother unalife themselves. So there has been a lot going on in life and I know that it is very hard for people especially people that are close to you to understand what is going on with someone that is battling depression. You could be in a big big party and you sit there and you just feel oh you feel so out of place. makes you feel so out of touch with everything. Now, I want to talk to those specific people that are battling through depression because let me tell you, sometimes it still hits me lately. I'm doing very good, I have to say. But I want to talk to you guys and say, listen, keep going. If you believe in God, keep praying. Seek help if you need to. And don't let anybody brush over it. People have with the best of intentions so much advice. Go have take a walk. Go do this. Go book a vacation.

[00:02:37]Go. But they don't understand. You could go on 600 vacations. You can go on 600 walks in the park. You can sit with, you know, 600 family members loving on you.

[00:02:48]It still don't matter. Now, I know a lot of people don't believe in it. They believe you could talk yourself out of it, but I've seen a whole different side of depression. I know there's layers to layers the layers, but I just have it on my heart to tell you guys, keep pushing.

[00:03:03]Keep moving on. And we got you. We got each other. Y'all got me. Cuz you see the way I have to show up for you guys all the time. I love it. I found my passion. So that might help, too. But keep going, guys. I don't know why I had to say it, but I had to do it. We'll get into all of this, you know, on a on a on a members video. H. So today guys, we are talking about Pastor Curtis Nin and his wife, the first lady, Satrivia Nin.

[00:03:32]Now I saw this couple. It caught my eye and I was like, listen, I really need to talk about it. This interview was hosted by Dana Hunter. Now she has a podcast called Love, Lust, and Lies. Now, I really want you to go check her podcast out. Shout her out cuz I hope she doesn't flag my video. Sister, please don't flag this video. Please, cuz we're having a conversation today. Please, if you like her channel, go follow her channel, guys, and see what she's about.

[00:03:56]Now, Dana tackles a lot of heavy, a lot of controversial topics on her podcast.

[00:04:01]So, that is what makes it really interesting. And then she gives her commentary, but she gives her commentary from a Christian perspective. And she helps her guests navigate through a difficult conversation. And I absolutely respect the conversations that she is willing to have on her platform because I already told you this pastor lost his wife and then later remarried his late wife best friend that has HIV. Now for some of you that probably raises a lot of question. Nobody chooses HIV. This is definitely not her fault. So we are not talking about that because I feel like nobody should be stigmatized just because of their diagnosis. Now, Satrivia that is now a first lady, she had a lot of toxic relationship and after years of living in an unhealthy environment, after years of toxicity, she thought she found the man of her dreams to spend the rest of her life with. She then became pregnant and then while she was 8 months pregnant, she found out he had full-blown AIDS.

[00:04:57]Shortly thereafter, she got tested, of course, and then found out she had HIV as well. As you can imagine, she felt scared. She felt alone. She felt that her whole life just just overnight changed her whole future. The vision she had for herself changed. She didn't value herself anymore until she met Pastor Curtis. And that is where we start the story. We are going to head right into the conversation. And guys, listen to me. My unfilters. I want to know what you think. Now, for the new people that love them some dabs, when we react to a video, I need to talk through the video. Now, I know some people are like, "Oh god, I like it when they just sit and don't stop the video and listen. I can't do that." Now, first of all, for fair use, I need to talk through it.

[00:05:45]Educational purposes. I need to do this.

[00:05:47]So, it's a reaction video. If you don't like that, don't watch this one. But I rather you stick around. Now, remember guys, we are going to listen and we do not judge. You already know what to do.

[00:05:59]Get comfortable guys. Grab a blanket, grab a snack, grab a drink, put your earphones in, depending on where you're at, of course, and let's watch some discombobulation, sort of. Y'all ready?

[00:06:14]>> Let's get into it.

[00:06:17]>> Hello, stranger. It's been a minute since we last kissed.

[00:06:25]And by the way, just got in town and I won't let hum >> and I'm just going to let them introduce themselves and we are going to jump right in. Mr. and Mrs. Nan, thank y'all so much for being here with us today on Love, Lust, or Lies. How are you doing today?

[00:06:57]>> Doing great. Another day, another opportunity. Thank you very much for having us.

[00:07:01]>> Yes. And and would you like for me to say Pastor Nan?

[00:07:06]>> Yes, ma'am. Pastor Love Youth Life Ministries. Yes, ma'am.

[00:07:10]>> All right, Pastor. I might even say Bishop.

[00:07:14]All right.

[00:07:15]All right.

[00:07:16]>> Miss Nan, how are you today?

[00:07:19]>> Doing I'm doing I'm doing all right. I'm hanging. I'm hanging.

[00:07:23]>> Wonderful. Wonderful. And God bless you, First Lady.

[00:07:28]>> Miss Nan, >> Miss Nan, Miss First Lady, we gonna get into it. We have a lot to unpack. A lot to unpack. And here on Love, Lusties, we try not to leave one stone unturned. We get into it.

[00:07:42]>> Something I touch on. You don't want to talk about it. Y'all just say just act like you ain't hear me because I'm going to ask the hard questions. Okay.

[00:07:51]Okay, >> Miss Nan, I want you to get into it. At a young age, you found yourself in a vulnerable, compromised situation, to no fault of your own, just like everybody else, looking for love. Talk to us about this predator that you met and what happened to you at a young age.

[00:08:13]>> So, I think I was 23 if I'm not mistaken. 20 21 23. I sometimes I be forgetting the the the years and and the dates. Um as I continue to heal, I I learned more about it, but I I know I was in my early 20s. I met a guy. He was absolutely amazing. He was nothing like what I had experienced um before then.

[00:08:35]He went to church. He wanted a future.

[00:08:38]He wanted to be a plumber. Um he loved my son. I had a son. He loved my son.

[00:08:43]Everything was going good. Um, I think we was together maybe about a year and a half. I got pregnant. I was eight and eight and a half months pregnant. He started getting sick. So, he went to the doctor and they said that he just had a cold. He had asthma and he kept going back to the doctor, kept going back to the doctor. And the last time he went, they test him for um for HIV. Um, he told me he was going to take the test for HIV. Maybe a few days later, we was sitting in the room in the hospital. He was he was in the hospital. I was sitting on the side of the bed. And the doctor came in and she was like, "Well, your results came back. Um could could you leave the room?" And he was like, "No, she don't have to leave the room.

[00:09:24]She the mother of my my child." So she was like, "Um test results came back and you have AIDS." So it was like, "Oh, AIDS." It wasn't even a HIV word. It was the AIDS word. So it's kind of confusing a little bit, but you know, AIDS and HIV got something to do with each other. So, you know, like, okay. So, then she was like, um, it's important for you to go and get tested because you 8 and a half months pregnant. So, I didn't say nothing and he looked at me, I looked at him, and he was like, um, don't leave me. It's going to be me and you against the world. And I was like, okay.

[00:09:58]Hold on, sister. Now, I am glad that this doctor, this might sound very effed up, but the doctor came back and said it was AIDS. Now, I am glad that it was AIDS. And I'm going to tell you why.

[00:10:10]Because sometimes you hear PEOPLE FLIP IT, FLIP it and just quickly say, "Listen, I got it from you." And this is something he very well could have did and say, "Listen, I didn't have none of this. Since I am with you, I have this."

[00:10:23]You know, they were young. But since it's age, that means, and correct me if I'm wrong for all my nurses, doctors in the comments, when somebody has full-blown AIDS, that means it has progressed for years, years, may maybe five plus years. has to be. Please put it in the comments if that's not true.

[00:10:42]But that's you know what I think I KNOW OF THIS. I HAD TO LET THAT OUT.

[00:10:48]>> SISTER, >> you saying this guy was Mr. Perfect. You about 20 22 23 years old. You met this guy.

[00:10:57]Everything was right. And because we we kind of talked in the pre-in you had some prior failed relationships before.

[00:11:05]And so this time you took your time.

[00:11:08]time you met this guy. He approached you. He was saying all the right things.

[00:11:13]He was working at the time.

[00:11:17]>> Yep.

[00:11:18]>> Working at the time. Probably I'm sure there was some physical attraction at the >> Now, first lady, I really have I I need you to use full words. Yep. And that I don't First lady, come now. time. Did he allude to anything being wrong or could you tell that anything was being wrong?

[00:11:40]Anything was wrong with him?

[00:11:43]>> Oh. Oh.

[00:11:45]>> And And you said y'all dated for a year and a half. You had one son for him.

[00:11:50]>> I had already had a son when I met him.

[00:11:52]>> You had a son prior to the relationship, >> but now you found yourself pregnant for him.

[00:11:59]>> Yes.

[00:11:59]>> For him.

[00:12:01]and take us to that moment again. So, he started to feel sick.

[00:12:07]You were eight months pregnant for him.

[00:12:10]You found out not he has the flu or sickness. You said they told him with you in the room that he has full-blown AIDS.

[00:12:25]What was your reaction?

[00:12:28]I didn't I don't I didn't have one.

[00:12:32]It was like um so at that time in my life I I knew I heard about what HIV was. I heard about what AIDS was, but that was it. I never thought that >> I just never thought it for my life.

[00:12:47]>> So when they said it, it was like, "Wow." She was like, "You got to go get tested." I just went numb. That's the only thing I how I could explain is is I went numb. I didn't know how to feel. I didn't know how to think. It just was like a numb feeling.

[00:13:02]>> Okay. Did you suspect was there any infidelity throughout this question?

[00:13:08]>> No.

[00:13:12]>> Now sister, you are saying no very confidently. You cannot say there was no infidelity. You don't know that. He also could have gotten it from someone else.

[00:13:20]I I don't know how this whole thing goes. But you're saying no. No, he did not. Do Hold on. Now hold on. But let let me let me let me listen. Maybe you're going to explain.

[00:13:35]>> So you think you met him and he had he had this when he approached you when he met you all this time.

[00:13:42]>> Okay, pastor. So that's the thing. Um you could you could never know. You could I could I can't say he had it when he met me. I can't say he was cheated and got I I don't know. We we we will never know. But what we do know is I had unprotected sex. And because I had unprotected sex with somebody and I did not know their status, that's why I became HIV positive. And I like to look at it that way because if I look at it like did he have it before he met me?

[00:14:11]Did he cheat and get it?

[00:14:13]>> That's that's going to really like that's going to worry me. You know what I'm saying? That's going to put me in in a bad place. Yes.

[00:14:19]>> So I look at it like I had unprotected sex with somebody I was in a relationship with and that I loved.

[00:14:25]>> That's a That's what I was saying.

[00:14:27]>> I think that is very good. That is some accountability, >> but it kind but it kind of debunks what you just said when you said no, he he never cheated. You now you say you don't know. Now that's a better answer. But I love the fact that you want to take accountability and this is the way you also heal from it. Like I played a major part in it. I played a major part in it because I had unprotected sex. I really like this part.

[00:14:54]>> Yes. That's a whole message right there in and of itself.

[00:14:58]>> How long had y'all been dating before y'all started having sex back then when you were 23 >> or 22?

[00:15:05]>> Maybe a few Maybe a few weeks.

[00:15:07]>> Few weeks. Never. And he Neither one of y'all was on y'all's radar to use protection back then. He didn't offer and you didn't mandate >> that. Who do that? Who who who bust out a com? Who doing that?

[00:15:20]>> Who doing that? who who doing that 21 years ago and who doing that in 2026. I would love to hear somebody say that they doing that.

[00:15:27]>> So is it >> and I'm not making excuse I'm not making excuses for myself, but I'm just saying um from the conversations I had with people over the years, people are not um having protected sex. This is not a conversation.

[00:15:40]>> Oh no, Shivia, stop this. Stop this right now. Listen, cuz I What is she saying?

[00:15:49]Who does that? who bust out of comia.

[00:15:52]Now listen, I don't know where you grew up. I don't know how you grew up. I don't know what's going on. Now listen, I am far from perfect. Let me tell you, if you're looking for perfection, don't look at me. Don't look at me. But let me tell you one thing. Listen, when I was 21 and you say around that time, who bust out of me. Now, the way I grew up and this absolutely I would not advise.

[00:16:15]I would not advise. My mom knows this now. every now and again she watches my videos but ma put in the comments. She really put the fear in me but so much that I later found out I'm very traumatized now when I was young high school days because I grew up in church but I wasn't always saved. Okay, now mind you my mom was saved either my dad was. So but my mom was like listen I don't want no teenage pregnancy or whatever. Now, she pulled out some books.

[00:16:49]Books. I'm not telling you internet pictures and whatever. I'm talking about the 92 books. And she showed me every STD on this entire globe. But not only did she show me the STDs, she also told me, "Listen, if you as much as you know come in contact unprotected with that D," and this is how she said it. My I'm telling you you know if I'm lying if you as much as come in contact with it unprotected it's not a matter of you know are you going to die it is when will you die yes so you better not this is how she talked to me now I would not advise it but let me tell you so as I grew older because I didn't have sex but then as I grew older and you know I met my son's father and guys when I tell you suddenly that all the lessons that she thought she told me because back then I was aggravated as hell the stories looking at the pictures again I was like oh god this woman but guys this stayed with me until this day so when I'm dating and in the dating phase we're not even thinking about having sex or whatever I'm already saying listen we have to get tested already I don't know even where this is going but if you think this is going somewhere that's what we need to do Then we have the whole condom period. Now I very much know that once you get tested and the test results come back next month if someone cheats or does whatever it the test could be very different. But in my it eases my mind every six months that we get tested. I I really tell you I have been like this since I was young.

[00:18:33]Does this prevent everything? And absolutely not. But in my mind, I was doing the best I can. But to say a trivia, who does that? And who? Oh my god, that is a very loose thought. Very loose. Very I don't know guys, put in the comments how you would brother and what you but Oh god.

[00:18:56]Miss N is a whole thing and I'm going have to keep myself focused for the sake of time. But you are saying to me that nowadays and even back then people was not having um using condoms.

[00:19:11]>> That's not true.

[00:19:12]>> That's a thing. I'm off I'm off the scene cuz I've been married since I was 18. So I was married since 1998. You're saying that this is a norm for people to >> to have sex and not use protection. This is a norm.

[00:19:26]>> Yeah. For people that's not in relationship, for people that's married and been married for years and step out and they go sleep with people that they've been sleeping with for years and go home like nothing ever happened.

[00:19:37]People are not using gun.

[00:19:38]>> Absolutely not. But what makes it different is that you said you were with him for a year and a half. You weren't married with him for years and years. So you slept with him very fast, Chativia.

[00:19:48]And which I do not, you know, I do not condemn. I do it is what it is. But but but girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl girl the way you say it it irks me.

[00:19:57]>> I guess it's a beautiful thing that you not shifting blame to him. You taking responsibility like I had unprotected sex with this guy that I really didn't know. So you found yourself now in a compromised situation. Tell us about the moment you said I got to go get tested and how that went. M when when when she told us, I called my midwife and my midwife told me to come in and I went and got the test done. And back then things were different. So I got the test and she told me to come back in two weeks. Um when I went back in two weeks, he actually went with me when I went back.

[00:20:32]>> Um I was sitting in the waiting room after I got, you know, when when you go to the doctor, they do your height, weight, da da da, they have you sit down. So after I sat down for a minute and they called me, when they called my name, it was like three people standing there. So I'm like, "Okay, I got it."

[00:20:47]>> Mind you, before that, he said, "Don't leave me. It's it's it's us against the world now." Now, listen, cuz you didn't disclose how young or how old he was, cuz maybe it's coming still. Maybe he was older than you, girl. I I think he was.

[00:21:06]But the fact that he says, "Stay with me. It's it's me against I I'm wondering. Did he know that he was sick or whatever? Did he have an inkling in his body?" And now that he just couldn't ignore it anymore, he went to the doctor because don't leave me. It's me me and you against the world. That that very easy to say.

[00:21:24]Now you got tested, now you have it. Oh god, I'm already knowing I got it. So then when when they took me to down the hall to the room, it was more people in the room. So I'm I'm already knowing like, okay, I'm HIV positive. So, I I went in the room. I sat down and my midwife, she told me who everybody was in the room, but to this day, I don't remember what she said. Some stuff still coming to me, but she told me who was in the room. And she said, "So, trivia, I'm sorry, you're HIV positive." U Miss Nan, you mentioned to us that this guy said, who I'mma I'mma label him as a predator cuz he should have known he was sick.

[00:22:04]There were signs that >> Hold on. Why? Why he should have known he was sick?

[00:22:08]>> Okay, that's what I was gonna ask because we we kind of got into that. You were saying he was getting very very sick, >> but he Okay, so his his health was declining quickly. Is that right?

[00:22:23]>> But it could have been some other kind of sickness. He might not have known that that's why his health was declining. Is that what you're saying?

[00:22:29]>> Exactly. So when when somebody health get the decline is to that degree and they have AIDS. AIDS is um the complications from HIV that's when everything starts to shut down. So that means you have had HIV for for between six to to 10 years because you you you had a long time.

[00:22:50]>> Yes.

[00:22:50]>> So even with you having a long time just because you have it that don't mean that you know you have it. You could let's just say I don't know. I'm just saying.

[00:22:59]And the reason why I'm breaking this down because people need to know this, right?

[00:23:02]>> Yes.

[00:23:03]>> He could have had sex with somebody when he was 15 years old that had HIV. And then when he met me at 21 and he has that's when he started getting sick. But his body had been going through all these changes and he just never knew. So that's why once again it's important to know your status. So when you meet somebody, you sleep with them, you already know what it is because you are tested. But if you are not tested, we can't say you could we I can meet Well, I'm married now, but you can meet somebody and y'all just met each other and y'all sleep sleep with somebody else. Y'all sleep y'all sleep together and one of y'all give the other one HIV.

[00:23:42]That person could have got it five years ago, one year ago, a month ago. Like you just >> if they didn't get tested, if they didn't get tested, they're not going to know. So you're saying it's possible? I I guess I just I I'm not giving him the b benefit of the doubt that he knew, but I cannot do that. I cannot accuse him of knowing. You saying it's possible he really didn't know. Is that what you're saying? I just don't think people are good people. All people good people. So I'm like, he had to have known.

[00:24:09]>> You don't think he knew? I'm going to take your word for it. You don't think he knew?

[00:24:14]>> What do you think, guys?

[00:24:16]>> Today I'mma tell you today's time.

[00:24:19]Cuz in in other years time, yeah, he knew. ain't this to me, you know, but in today's time, me being older and I understand life and I understand people a little better.

[00:24:30]>> Um, it's best to just say I don't know if he knew.

[00:24:34]>> Yeah.

[00:24:34]>> You know why? For my own mental health because I stayed with him for almost 20 years. So like how why would you even stay with a person that's that evil, you know? So to make for for my own sanity, it's best to just say I don't know if he had it or not. But what I do know is me as a woman, I decided to have unprotected sex with a man. And because I did that, I have HIV. Let's just forget him for a second. Well, I did put me in this situation.

[00:25:01]>> Yes.

[00:25:01]>> Now, we like this accountability. You said you were with him for 20 years. You said you found out when you were like 21, between 21 and 23. You said by then you were with him for a year and a half.

[00:25:14]That lets me know you are in your early 40. You are in your early 40s, girl. Early 40s. So that means you and me were not too far apart. So by you saying that in that time when I was young, we didn't use condoms. Protected sex. What? We didn't do this and this.

[00:25:36]Who? Who used condoms? Who you? A lot of us did in that time.

[00:25:41]90s. Yes.

[00:25:46]So, I wanted to learn about what HIV is.

[00:25:49]What do it do? How do I how do I um stop thinking about HIV all the time? How do I not be sad? How do I go in a room and I just don't think somebody know I have it or somebody look I I wanted to understand. He didn't want to understand. He didn't want to talk about it. So, when I talked about it, it kind of like um got on his nerves, I'm going say. for um it caused it caused problems with us me wanting to become educated.

[00:26:15]So I think that's that's where we was at. We kind of like was divided in a sense and he wanted to run outside and like he used to say I'm a dead man walking. I'mma have my fun. I'mma go outside. I'm enjoy my life. But me on the other hand, I'm reading stuff trying to figure out what it is. I'm trying to go to classes. I'm googling stuff. I'm going to therapy. I'm trying to understand what's going on. And I was jealous of him because he was having a ball. He was like, The fact that he was having a wonderful time, I'm a dead man walking. I'mma just cut up and do things. Lets me know he knew he had it because how are you getting over it that fast? Now, I can already hear people dabs, but that was his reaction to cope with it, to go party, to do this, and self-destruction because, you know, he had this thing. But I don't know if I buy it. He was having a wonderful time and I was not. Um, and we would break up and get back together like he'll go off and cheat and do whatever and we'll break up and I'll be doing good, but then when he come back we would we wouldn't talk about it. So, one more question, guys. Would you have left him?

[00:27:21]Would you have left him the moment you heard, "Listen, you have HIV. He has AIDS. You have HIV."

[00:27:30]Would you have left him? Have you ever been through such a thing or been through such a thing that you know one party one person had it but you didn't have it and then you were like no I I I can't do this like what's your opinion about this?

[00:27:45]>> It's a weird relationship.

[00:27:46]>> Did you say he would go out and cheat?

[00:27:49]>> Well, yeah. I found out that he was talking to somebody else >> um messing around with somebody else and we'll argue about it. Say he'll leave for three months. So he had a he knew he was had this sickness >> but yet he you think he was still sleeping around with other people or at least one other person.

[00:28:08]>> Yeah. You know in the state of Illinois you you don't have to you don't have to disclose your status if you if you are undetectable. So I know that now I know back then I just thought that he was being evil. But in the state of Illinois you don't have to disclose your status if you are what's called undetectable.

[00:28:25]But when he had AIDS, he wasn't undetectable anymore. When he got AIDS, he was not un He was very tech detectable. Very. So girl, what are you talking about? Now for the people that say, "Dad, but what is your opinion?

[00:28:39]Would you would have left your partner?"

[00:28:40]Abs. If we have only been together for a year and a half, now I'm at this doctor's office with a big big belly.

[00:28:48]Year and a half. So year and a half to me, we are still in the puppy love stages. It's just, you know, and now the people going to tell me this man that has full-blown AIDS gave you HIV. This is it. Oh, no. I I couldn't do it. Now, the reason I can't say that now, but maybe your state of mind when you you hear you have it is like, listen, who who else is going to want me? I I got to stay with this man because who is going to want me with HIV? So, that could very well be her state of mind. It could be.

[00:29:19]But the type of person I am and I know on myself, I wouldn't be able to do it because you would you would sit there on that couch, you would eat, you would swallow, you would breathe, and I would just I would just look at you just hours at a time just just stare. And it it would be good. It would be I know myself and y'all know me, too.

[00:29:44]I I can't do this. To fast forward this a little bit, Miss Nan, you at some point realized this guy was not good for you. He wasn't gonna do right. He was going outside too much, still having fun, and wasn't going to commit and do the right thing. You eventually moved on, right?

[00:30:04]>> Yes.

[00:30:06]>> Even in moving on, it still wasn't easy for you. and you found, you mentioned to me that you reached out and you found a um I guess a spiritual friend or someone who you befriended in the church. Talk to us a little bit about that and about this person because that'll segue us into the next piece.

[00:30:27]>> So, I'm go back a tad bit. So me I had met well I met this lady on I met this lady on Facebook and we was in a a wives group. Um and she was like godly. I I called her queen cuz she just was the queen of the queens. Right.

[00:30:46]>> Okay.

[00:30:47]>> And I would always go in her inbox and ask her questions questions all the time. And I would get on her nerves asking her these questions all the time cuz I just was I was a a baby in Christ then. So, you know how babies is in Christ, they be going and going and going and going. Um, and at that time, she was going through things, too. But I didn't know. Um, and I was I kind of like was was tired of what I was going through. I started to realize the stuff I was going through was not normal because when you been abused for so long, you start to think that it's normal, right? And especially when your abuser um isolates you, you don't really know that this is not normal, you know?

[00:31:23]So, me and her, we started somehow we started talking.

[00:31:25]>> Did I miss something? She was abused.

[00:31:28]She was abused by this man as well.

[00:31:30]Taking up for this man and no, he did not cheat. Then he said he's he's a cheater. Now she's abused. I must have missed something. Put in the comments.

[00:31:38]I'm sorry. On the phone. So I talking on the phone. I was telling her like what I was going through and she was like, "You being abused." And I'm like, "What?" She was like, "You being abused on every level of abuse."

[00:31:51]>> Wow.

[00:31:51]>> And I'm like, "What? Laugh." you know, and I started listening to her and I start I found that I was being abused and I got to the point where I started calling the police and anything he did to me, I would call the police and stuff like that. And she was going through things with her h her husband, her husband, they had separated. So me and her, we bonded like I guess it was trauma bonding in a sense. You know, I was going through what I was going through. She was going through what she was going through. And we got really close. And I wind up I started being scared like I'm gonna kill him or he gonna kill me. Like one of us going to have to we got to do something. And we was rent to own a house. And our time was up. We was either going to go buy a house and the money we put down was going to go towards the house or we was going to walk away. So I I didn't really want to walk away from it because I had put everything I had into, you know, the house. I took my kids away from Chicago, little suburb, and I'm like, this is the life I want for my kids. But if I go into this, cuz I name if I would have went in there with him, it wasn't going to be good.

[00:32:53]>> So, I decided to work real hard and move. I was going to move away when he was gone one day. I was going to move closer by her.

[00:33:02]>> So, we we we planned it out. I did everything I had to do and I moved out there closer to her. Um, and we just we just got really really close. And and in the time of us getting close was a time where she was alone and I was alone and we was helping each other, helping each other spiritually, financially, whatever we could do for each other. We was like sisters in a sense.

[00:33:24]>> And she used to always say, "You and Curtis, her husband name is Curtis. You and Curtis, y'all like all the same stuff. Y'all would be good for each other." But at that time, I didn't know her husband because he had left. So I used to just think she just missed her husband. Meanwhile, Curtis is sitting right behind HER BECAUSE SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE PASTOR. She's not even looking at him. He's not flinching, nothing. She is talking about him, telling us that the best friend at that time about her own husband that had left for a bit. You would be good. You and him would be good together. I don't believe it. Now, this husband left you for a bit.

[00:34:03]God knows why. Because you were trauma bonding and she was going through her own things. Now we need to know Satrivia what was she going through? What was she going through? Now you are going to give us your version of what she was going through but she's not here anymore to tell her side. So I'm very curious as to know what she was going through. But for her to tell you, you would be good with my husband cuz they weren't even divorced. I I just don't believe it. Or maybe they were divorced for for a quick second. But I do not believe this. I I really do not believe this. And this is has nothing to do with y'all. It has something to do with me. But I find it very hard to believe. He just used to be saying all the time every time something happened, "Girl, you like to walk. You want to do this. You encourage y'all be good together. Y'all were soulmates."

[00:34:48]But I never really paid her no that much attention because like I said, I thought she I just thought she missed her husband. Um and then I w she wind up her husband came back.

[00:34:59]Her husband came back and then I started doing a lot of different things like I started a publishing company. I started a nonprofit and I started sinning real bad and I I kind of steered away from being around her as much because I felt like I was in sin and she was always like, "God want you to do this and God want you that girl shut up. Leave me alone." You know, I was in sin. So I we still was friends. We still was friends, but we wasn't like spiritual friends no more because I I I just didn't want to do right.

[00:35:28]>> Okay. So you was pulling away. So you met you were you found this wives group.

[00:35:32]If this is your first lady, she's very candid, very open. I'm very I respect it to call this woman your first lady now already. It's kind of early for me. The way she Yep. Yep. She sit there. It It doesn't give me guys. It doesn't give me. But if it if this is your first lady, put in the comments. It's very safe space with us. We We are going to ask you a couple of questions in the comments cuz I already know my people.

[00:35:55]But you could tell us because I don't know.

[00:35:59]>> Yeah. You kind of joined it even though you weren't married. You were kind of going through relationship.

[00:36:03]>> I was married. I married him. Yes, I was married.

[00:36:07]>> What?

[00:36:08]>> Yeah, I married him. We was married 11 years.

[00:36:11]>> What? The guy This the guy who gave you HIV?

[00:36:15]>> Oh, God.

[00:36:16]>> Oh, mission. I never knew that.

[00:36:19]>> Y'all were married 11 years. You ended up marrying him.

[00:36:24]>> Oh, was he unfaithful during the course of the marriage?

[00:36:28]>> Some of us was. Oh, woo. Y'all had it was sound like a toxic relationship and a toxic >> ball of mess.

[00:36:37]>> A ball of mess.

[00:36:38]>> A ball. A ball of mess. So that's a blessing. You ended up getting out. So you got in a wives group because you needed some advice and and then you found out you were being abused. All of the things probably emotional, physical, all of the all of that was happening within that marriage.

[00:36:57]>> No.

[00:36:58]>> Oh god. Now this makes sense. So you in the wives group, you meet Miss Queen who's also in the wives group. Y'all could kind of bond both going through similar or some hardships in marriage.

[00:37:12]And so she's telling you she's telling you that uh about her husband, her situation, you're telling her about her situation. Tell us how that ended up playing out.

[00:37:26]Um, so I moved I moved and I started doing all that different stuff and her husband came back. When her husband came back, I didn't only know the person that the person she told me he used to be.

[00:37:39]But the person that he came back, he was a different person, but I didn't know.

[00:37:43]So I called him on the phone and I called him and I said, "Um, hey." I was like, "This is your trivia." I said, "I know you I don't remember the words, but I said something like, I know you and you and um Aisha's get back together. If you hurt her, you going to have to deal with me."

[00:38:00]>> And he was like, "Huh?" And I said it again. And he was like, "You know, I respect that. I'm not on none of that.

[00:38:06]Like, I really I really love her." And then that was it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So that husband came back and now you felt as a bestie that you had to call that husband directly to tell him if you mess with her you're going to have to deal with me. Now this also I feel like is crossing a boundary.

[00:38:23]Now all besties in this world come into the comments. Is this normal? Now it could very well be because if you're younger you do these type of things but if you are older you still do this.

[00:38:34]Would you call that husband and say listen you don't even know that husband yet. The fact that she told you, "Let you tell it. You and Curtis would be good together. You and Curtis, now you want to hear Curtis voice." Oh god.

[00:38:47]Guys, I'm way too skeptic. Put in the comments. Tell me to calm down.

[00:38:53]And I'm going say like about three years, two and a half years later, she wind up dying. Um she had a heart attack >> and she passed away. Um >> she passed away. So remind you, she was the first lady, right? And when her husband >> I was going to ask you were I was going to ask you if they was in ministry at that time.

[00:39:12]>> Yes. They was in ministry at that time but he had left. So she kept doing ministry >> and she was the the wives group was her group and she took the wives group and stopped the wives group and made a women a a women's group.

[00:39:26]>> So >> so I started helping her with the women's group but remind you I was in sin. So I was like >> so I wouldn't be vocal on the page. I'll talk to her about the spiritual stuff and then she'll post it on the group and and talk about it and we'll all talk about like that. But I wouldn't be forward with it, but I knew what to do because I I helped her with all of it.

[00:39:45]So when when she passed away, I had knew her husband because it was her husband, of course. Um I knew the man he used to be and I know I knew I didn't I knew of the man he used to be and I saw the man he was when he came came back and I knew that she would want me to help him with the ministry. So one day he called me and he asked me, "Could we be accountability partners?" So I'm like, "Yeah, of course." Cuz I'm sure you know some stuff about me that she told you that you can help me with. I know stuff about you and you help me, you know. So it makes sense to me. So every Does it make sense to y'all peeps? My peeps. My peeps, please come in the comments. Does this make sense? Have you been through something similar before where you'd ended up with your best friend's husband? Please put it in the comments.

[00:40:33]Let let us be accountability partners.

[00:40:35]Now she passed two years all of a sudden passed. Oh god. This listen I have to listen to this with an open heart but it just doesn't sit right with me. You know I have this intuition thing guys. This thing my spidey sense is really on high alert.

[00:40:54]Sunday we used to talk every Sunday. We would talk um uh goals. We make goals for the week. um business goals, personal goals, ministry goals. Um and we did that for a while and and it started getting weird and them text messages started good morning text messages. Did you eat today? It's like I said, this kind of feeling a little weird. I think I like you.

[00:41:17]>> I think I like you. This is weird. And he was like, I think I like you too.

[00:41:21]This is kind of weird, you know. And then this is not weird to me. Now, you said you were in sin at some point. you weren't even in the women's group because you know you were helping her with the women's group because but you weren't really in because you didn't want to hear the God stuff because you weren't in sin. Thank you for being so open and honest. But this is very sinful to me too because it's very fast that you pass and now you come I think I like you. Could it happen? Yes. Could it suddenly happen that you have feelings for that person? You cannot help it.

[00:41:53]Absolutely guys absolutely. But there is just a feeling in me.

[00:41:58]I'm not saying you were waiting for for your turn to to come get this man, but the way you described yourself from young till I guys put it in the comments. Am I exaggerating?

[00:42:16]>> The conversation changed in because we realized we liked each other.

[00:42:20]>> Okay, so this is where we bring in Pastor Mr. Curtis.

[00:42:26]>> Yes. New >> Mr. Curtis, come on.

[00:42:30]>> Come on down to the pool. IT'S >> YOUR TIME to shine.

[00:42:36]>> Oh my my as the world turns.

[00:42:40]>> Hey, >> welcome.

[00:42:42]>> Yes. Welcome, Mr. Curtis. talk to us just a little bit about I guess your your previous marriage and then how it dismantled I guess after your wife passed and then what made you this whole accountability partners did you really have it did you really was you really had your good eyes on Miss Trivia I mean come on tell us talk to talk to us >> I like how you just did that cuz so many people think so many different things.

[00:43:17]So, um >> I like how you said that, >> but um just to give a quick backdrop, >> yes, >> me and my deceased wife, >> we we started dating when I was 15, she was 14.

[00:43:28]>> Uh we had three children together. We was to up until her passing, we was together like 29 years at that point, married for 21 years.

[00:43:38]>> Um just like any relationships, uh especially starting off so young, >> you grow up and sometimes grow apart.

[00:43:46]Yeah.

[00:43:46]>> Um, I had a lot of immaturities in me and I did a lot of things in my marriage that I should have did growing up being single, but I never was afforded that opportunity. Uh, I grew up really fast on a lot of different levels. Um, to say all that, I grew up I mature. She has some maturing to do as well. So, we actually end up um divorcing and um in our 19th year of marriage, but we end up getting back together uh and got remarried again because um we was always friends. We always accountability even through our separation and all of that. We still kept a solid relationship friendship. Then in my absence, her and Trivia got close. We was doing like projects together when I came back, like little ministry stuff. Um, so we knew each other, but I knew the love that my deceased wife had for her because she was a type of individual she don't deal with friendships, you know? She just didn't unless because of trust, right?

[00:44:47]And I just felt like once I I don't deal with like friendships like that. Um, so I'm like, you know, out of respect, I I I feel like I can trust you um with my vulnerabilities, especially during that time because that so so many females was coming at me during that time, which is so sad. And I could not really I did not know who to turn to. I felt like she would be the perfect person to trust with what I was going through and um and it went from there.

[00:45:13]>> How old were you when um your wife passed? How old were y'all now? I was 43 years old and now I'm 48.

[00:45:22]>> Mhm.

[00:45:23]>> Okay. You were 43 years old when she passed. Okay.

[00:45:26]>> Okay.

[00:45:27]>> Yes.

[00:45:27]>> And y'all have been married for 20 >> one years.

[00:45:32]>> 19 years the first time, two years the second time.

[00:45:35]>> Oh, wow. Divorce and then remarried.

[00:45:38]>> So once y'all remarried, things were better or worse or or the same?

[00:45:43]>> We No, things was way better. We both We both mature. We both came into a better version of ourselves.

[00:45:51]>> So when she passed, y'all were in a much better place.

[00:45:55]>> 10,000%.

[00:45:56]>> Okay. All right. So then you and Mr. Trivia, y'all are now conversating on the phone that she said um you know, talking, strategizing, planning, talking about business, talking about the church, right? That would come up, I'm sure.

[00:46:12]business, church, personal goals >> about how it Oh, go ahead.

[00:46:18]>> Then it evolved to like she said, "Good morning, how you doing?" You know, because we got acquainted during that time, right? So, it was like I I see how you looking. But but you it goes back to to back to the innocence why even even reach out her like, "Hey, let's be accountability partners." Um so like how it was friendly, you know, how how you doing? How you know? Cuz now I'm learning more about her. So now I know some personal things.

[00:46:43]>> So now that you hear this pastor, guys, what do you feel like? It feels like he has a sound mind. He has a good story, you know, accountability partners. And I just just thought we could, you know, who could I trust? There was so many women coming at me. I don't know if you missed it. That's what he said. So now I knew her. You know, she was my best friend's my wife's best friend. So now I was like, let let's do this together.

[00:47:07]now not even short thereafter. Here she comes. I like you.

[00:47:14]I don't know. What do you think so far, guys?

[00:47:17]>> Things she's going through. So, now I'm checking in. How you doing? How the kids doing? And you got to remember too, just to backtrack, I had started building a relationship with her children as well in the time that my my wife was alive.

[00:47:30]Um, so it was it was like a lot of similarities. So now it's like pieces being put together without even realizing it because we're just going through the motions of life like everybody does. about how long had y'all start conversating that before both of y'all realized there was a u maybe a romantic attraction.

[00:47:50]I would say within about about a month a little about over over a month it was like wow okay it's something there but we took our time though we had we didn't get into a relationship to two >> after a month that your wife has passed after a month was was it after a month of you talking or after oh god and you already thought yes I like guys guys guys >> years after my wife passed away.

[00:48:18]>> Wow. But it was about a month.

[00:48:20]>> He spent enough I say this all the time.

[00:48:22]You spend enough time with anybody.

[00:48:24]>> Yeah.

[00:48:24]>> You going it just just the reality of life, >> you know. So we realized it. But it was weird. It was like literally weird in the beginning stage.

[00:48:32]>> So you said it went on for this went on for two years and then after about a year and a half or so, y'all was like, "Let's make this official."

[00:48:41]>> Absolutely. Um, like I said, I I was I don't if if you have not people die in our lives, but when it comes to a spouse being a widowerower or widow, it's a different type of energy because that's your everything. That's your every day.

[00:48:58]So, I'm going through my own I'm still going through my own process of grief >> and um >> so I have to make sure that it don't intervene in what I'm I'm ready to build.

[00:49:12]>> You know what I mean? So, I had to have time alone. I had to spend time with God. I had to take sabaticals to to learn to search to to to fill my cup up.

[00:49:24]So once I got to a place of okay, I'm I'm in a better place. Let me let me reach out to trivia and see how you know if she's even willing to go a step further with me.

[00:49:36]>> So you were you were still pastoring at this time. Senior pastor.

[00:49:41]>> Absolutely.

[00:49:42]>> Senior pastor. Wow. And you said you had other women coming after you during this time.

[00:49:49]I never knew. I heard of stuff like that that that church goes on in church, but I had a chance to experience that. Yes.

[00:49:57]>> Tell us just a snippet, one second of what that was like that came out of the out of the woodworks. Huh.

[00:50:03]>> I didn't know if they was coming to the ministry for God or for me, >> you know, and as and as a as a pastor, that's hard.

[00:50:09]>> That's really challenging. You're trying to do what God calls you to do. And then at the end of service is a whole another type of spirit, a whole another type of conversation. A lot of manipulation.

[00:50:23]>> I mean, a lot of I mean, I know females talk about these type of things, but a lot goes on like this with guys experiencing manipulation as well and head games and trying to get me in my vulnerable state. It it was a lot of that going on.

[00:50:38]>> Wow. I asked her shocks in the church.

[00:50:43]>> When I asked her, I said, "Can you be my my uh my gatekeeper?" Because once again, it goes back to to trust and cuz I couldn't see everything and you got to understand I was at a vulnerable state dealing with a lot on top of the death of my spouse. So, um, >> you trusted Chhatriia. You she you knew that she knew your wife better than anybody almost other than you. You knew she had a good relationship with your wife. she knew your wife and in your state of vulnerability, you wanted somebody to help protect you from the sharks, from your own thinking to kind of bounce off thoughts, feelings, and ideas. And I think that >> say correctly.

[00:51:21]>> Yes. I think that is that is very remarkable. I will say for both for for trivia to to agree to do that because she knew your wife you know her they were close that she knew her your wife's spirit and what you know your wife would want >> in that situation and you to reach out to say right to protect him >> you know just because that's what she you you know that's what she should do as a a friend like a sister like a right >> my my sister gone I'mma look out for you basically oh no I don't think it was that I I think it was I will look out for you. I will look at you because I like you, not because my sister is gone and now I'm your gatekeeper and I'm your protector. I I don't think I I I'mma protect what's mine. That was her thought process. That is how I feel. I'm sorry sisters. I'm very sorry, but no.

[00:52:14]>> Step in her place and I'm and for you to agree and to you know in in a sense humble yourself and say, "Hey, I need some help. like this is going on and I recognize that you know this is a lot going on and I can't handle it. I need some help and for so for you guys to make that relationship I think that's remarkable.

[00:52:31]>> Remarkable.

[00:52:31]>> Uh this is a hard question. Uh brother Dr. Pastor Mr. Nan did you go celibate during this time?

[00:52:41]>> That's a very some things I like to keep personal.

[00:52:44]>> Okay.

[00:52:45]>> You know what I mean? So I I I plead the fifth on that. No. Okay. He was not.

[00:52:49]That's your action. Okay.

[00:52:51]>> Uh you tried to Okay. All right. We can we can we can keep moving. We can keep moving. You knew you needed help. So at some point you and Miss Chhatriia said, "We're going to connect." When did y'all say, "Let's When did you real Did you pray about it?" You Okay, I got so many questions. Did you pray about it? I'm sure you knew her status. How did you come to a place of saying you are the one?

[00:53:22]>> Well, once again, like I said moments ago, I went on a whole sbatical. Uh I went so deep into I left the state for um a little while. Went to two different states actually just to uh be within myself and and just hear from God.

[00:53:38]>> In your time with God, at some point did God reveal to you that this was your wife?

[00:53:46]I share this brief story. U when my wife first passed away, her cousin, we was just talking and I'm like, "I'm done with love." You know, I'm done. I can't do it no more. It hurts that bad. It's hurt to love sometimes. You know what I mean? And I said, "I can't do it." And I never forget my my deceased white cousin said, "Curtis, um that's not you." She said, >> "You will honey." She said, "Exactly.

[00:54:10]You will know because you'll get your Her name is Aisha. You'll get Aisha approval. That's my deceased wife name.

[00:54:16]You will know you will get ICA approval.

[00:54:18]This way before accountability partners and all that. But when I went on my sbatical, I went from two different states.

[00:54:27]>> I felt like in my spirit I got I approval. So that's how I knew.

[00:54:31]>> You felt in your spirit like your wife would have been okay or it would have been her choice for you to >> Now I'm glad he didn't say God told me.

[00:54:41]God told me that I would have to be with Satrivia and God told me that it was okay. I'm glad he didn't say that. Now he said, Aisha told me in my spirit that this is the time to move on with my best friend. Could be. I I you know, we hear this sometimes that friends go with, you know, deceased friends, spouses, and whatever. So, I've heard this before, but every time I hear it, I just And and and and the way it went with these two in the women's group, and then you went, you infiltrated. Listen, Cat Trivia, I No. But am I not as hard on him? I'm definitely hard on him, too. I'm a whole pastor.

[00:55:24]But the way he explains it, it it makes more sense. But he was vulnerable. I don't know, guys. you put in the comments.

[00:55:32]>> And Mr. Trivia, I know we've had conversations and you felt the same.

[00:55:36]Tell us about your thought process in that.

[00:55:40]>> Well, I already knew he was my husband.

[00:55:43]I had already knew. Um >> I think maybe like when we had started liking each other, I had a friend that I had met through social media um through YouTube and we just used to do it just be a business thing at first. And one day she texted me and said, "God told me to tell you that Curtis is gonna be your husband."

[00:56:02]>> Oh, God.

[00:56:03]>> And I'm like, "What?" And we just had started liking each other, so nobody in the world know that this is going on.

[00:56:08]So, >> boss, stop this now. God told me that this is going to be your >> I told her to call me.

[00:56:16]>> I told her to call me. Call me. Forget about that $100 you you be paying me, girl. Call me right now.

[00:56:23]And she called me and she said, "I don't want to step over no boundaries or nothing, but God told me that Curtis is going to be your husband." And I'm like, "I like him." And she was like, "I know you like you, too." And me and her been friends ever since she was in our wedding. I had already knew she was going to be my he was going to be my husband because of that. But not only that, when all the stuff was going on in the church with all of the women and all of that, it was so hard for me cuz I liked him. So I had to see these women throwing theirself at him and it just was and and I used to be a fighter.

[00:56:54]We're going to talk about your fighting days. But you see I liked him. So he asked you to be his gatekeeper, his protector. But you are telling us now cuz we we listen to the little things around here. You are telling us now. But I already liked him. That's what I told you guys. She didn't take this gatekeeping task. She took it because she was already in love with him. This is mine.

[00:57:16]That That's what I'm protecting. Not I'm protecting you because you're my best friend, husband, and you're you're going through difficulties. No, I'm protecting you because I want your ass. That's what I just told you. And she confirmed I liked him in my days. You must want to drag people like God was working on me. And I used to be telling him like, I really wanted to drag her today. Like, but God is working on me cuz if I'm going to be a first lady, I can't be out here dragging people across the pull pit. like I can't deal with it like that. So I had asked God one time he did a sbatical and I did one too. I didn't even know what a sbatical was. He told me about it. I did it too. And I had I prayed and prayed and I had asked God if God is this is this man my husband because if he ain't I'm about to leave him alone and this church all this stuff. I don't like church anyway. I'm going to go first. It was just me and you God in my Bible. I ain't got to do none of this for real.

[00:58:13]And God told me about to lose your salvation behind dragging somebody.

[00:58:17]>> I'm tell I used to be telling I'M ABOUT TO DRAG HER about the church. She touching on your shoulder. If she touch you again, I'mma kill her. I'mma kill her.

[00:58:24]>> This is your first lady.

[00:58:26]>> But anyhow, for real, >> God told me that he was going to be my husband, but he told me that it it wasn't going to be no easy ride to get there.

[00:58:34]>> And I'm like, "Wow, that mean I got to go through some more if I already go through some more stuff." But God showed me him in a white suit with some with some them red alpha bottom with them black them shoes with the red at the bottom of red bottom shoes. He had on that all white up there preaching and I was sitting watching him and he was my husband. So I already knew anyway. So when he came and and said, "Can you be my one? Could we be together?" Yeah.

[00:59:01]What you talking about?

[00:59:02]>> Wow.

[00:59:03]>> So I already knew.

[00:59:04]>> When y'all started dating, were was it just a beautiful relationship? Was there any infidelity? Anything like that >> with us?

[00:59:13]>> Uhhuh.

[00:59:15]>> Say like in the beginning think I think I started playing around and entertaining people because the women was all over him and I felt like cuz I I come I come from a pack a toxic >> background. So stuff in my eyes don't look look right. It could be nothing. I learned that everything that look away ain't that way.

[00:59:34]>> So I felt like he was entertaining them.

[00:59:37]So, I started playing around and flirting and stuff. Yes.

[00:59:39]>> And it did cause a problem in the beginning when that happened. But once we was able to talk about it and he was able to see where I was coming from, what I thought I was seeing, but what he saw is what he did see. Um, we we was able to get past that. As far as myself, no.

[00:59:54]>> When I I knew what I knew and I I at that moment in time when I asked her, you know, to be in relationship, I ain't on no games, you know, and it been like that ever since. From dating to marriage, >> you know, once again, you you you have a deceased wife either that's going to break you to pieces or that's going to mold you into a better version of yourself. And I have chosen to make to be a better version of myself. So, um the toxicity in me, I got some ways.

[01:00:26]Yes. But when it comes to infidelity, that's that's not my style.

[01:00:30]>> Wow.

[01:00:30]>> That's amazing.

[01:00:31]>> That is beautiful. Yes. So, how long have y'all been married to date?

[01:00:38]>> Eight months.

[01:00:39]>> Eight months. This is >> Congratulations.

[01:00:42]>> Oh, yes. Congratulations.

[01:00:43]>> Thank you and bless you.

[01:00:44]>> And um Mr. I don't know guys. She don't give me saved, sanctified. She trivia don't give me none of that. Like she's the first lady now, but she doesn't give me none of that. Telling you what you should do in the church and this and that and you should do this and that. Sat trivia herself. I couldn't take it. If I was in that church trivia, you don't give me >> just about everybody like her because HIV status, right? Her I mean about 99 99.99%.

[01:01:21]Another 99 99% that's your wife's best friend. So it was50, you know, it it was a lot that I had to endure.

[01:01:31]The church broke apart because of it.

[01:01:33]Um, I got slandered like slandered real bad throughout social media.

[01:01:39]>> I went through a lot. I went through a hell of a lot. But, um, uh, one thing I kept reminding myself that my life is not my own.

[01:01:49]>> You know what I mean? God kept reminding me of that, you know. So, uh, I have been able to endure. Thank God that the storm done passed, but it's still it's still the effects from it. I still get sad sometimes. I don't get mad anymore.

[01:02:03]So I know I grew from that and I learned from that.

[01:02:06]>> Yes.

[01:02:06]>> Um but um it it was a lot that I went through but I thank you for you know even >> even wanting to know our story.

[01:02:14]>> And so God knew what he needed for his house for his ministry and for his servant. A woman that'll drag that that'll be willing to drag that makes you laugh.

[01:02:22]>> You needed that God God I'm tell you God tailor made her to be next in line >> to protect you to protect you. You know what I'm saying? You know you can't drag them. You can't and you know you may not even recognize that you need the dragon but she know the ones who's touching you on your shoulder innocently and they just they about that game. They about that and yeah and she got >> Uhhuh. I got something for Don't worry about no status. Don't worry about her.

[01:02:46]She going to be got this. I got her. I got her. Hey, ain't going to let that happen. You need this one right here.

[01:02:52]Rat.

[01:02:54]>> And with that message, we are going to end this interview guys. Now listen, this was a light light video, but tell your girl what did you think about him remarrying her best friend? What did you think about her HIV story? Do you think this guy was really a predator? Do you think that he knew that he had HIV? I wish them nothing but the best. But you already saw my reaction. I kind of chia, you don't give me first lady at all.

[01:03:21]That's what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with your HIV. It has nothing to do with you remarrying your best friend's husband. It just has to do with you. Now, let the host tell it. She felt feels a very genuine spirit and very genuine and this and that. I am not really convinced, but I respect you for sharing your story. Now, peeps, we hung out a little bit. I hope that you could take away something from this video. If nothing at all, put it in the comments, too. And thank you for the host for, you know, putting this interview out so I can react on it. I'll see you guys, of course, very fast. I think I'm going to do a surprise live, a test live. I need to test this StreamYard thing, guys. So, I'm coming on the live, too. But send your questions in that you have. We have to do some new segments. Send things, ideas. Now, if you haven't subscribed, hit a subscribe. If you haven't liked the video yet, you already know. Push us onto the algorithm and hit a like. And I'll see you in the next one, guys.