Cop Had NO IDEA This 1A Auditor Was Recording for YouTube | First Amendment Audit

Indiziert: 2026-05-21

[00:00:01]Man, I got more important things for you to worry about right now.

[00:00:03]>> Dude, you're being rude, dude. You're being rude and I want to know who you work for.

[00:00:08]>> Yeah, I am going to worry about it.

[00:00:10]Guarantee you I'mma worry about it.

[00:00:13]You can't be acting like that. I was very polite to you, man.

[00:00:19]Don't you know this goes on the platform, man?

[00:00:21]>> Don't you know that this goes on the platform?

[00:00:23]>> Put the camera down.

[00:00:24]>> I not care what you ask. I deny I decline your ask. I decline your ask.

[00:00:28]Now, now I'm going to be rude to you. I decline your ask. How you going to ask me something that you don't even want to tell me who you is, man? Man, you must be out of your mind, bro. You must be out of your mind. You're telling, you're telling me to put my camera down.

[00:00:48]I ask this man to stop filming me and he still got his camera on him. [ __ ] the the respective just asked him the same thing. He still got the camera on her.

[00:00:57]How we doing today, sir?

[00:00:58]>> Is there good, man?

[00:01:00]>> Is there a problem or is there anything?

[00:01:01]>> I just come in here to get some pips real quick and video record right here the the the public lobby.

[00:01:08]>> Uhhuh.

[00:01:08]>> They're telling me to put the camera down. Can you get your name and badge number?

[00:01:11]>> Okay, absolutely. My name is Deputy Ward ID 96113.

[00:01:18]Is >> that your personal >> Lee County Sheriff's Office? Is >> that your personal phone?

[00:01:21]>> That is my work phone.

[00:01:22]>> Your work phone?

[00:01:23]>> Yes. Okay.

[00:01:24]>> So, so I'm sorry. So you saying you what? You were um videotaping them for what reason?

[00:01:30]>> No, I just came in here.

[00:01:31]>> Uh-huh.

[00:01:32]>> Video recording my First Amendment, right?

[00:01:34]>> Okay.

[00:01:34]>> To video in public in public buildings.

[00:01:36]>> I come and get pamphlets.

[00:01:38]>> Is it?

[00:01:38]>> She didn't want to be recorded. She ran to the back.

[00:01:41]>> Um, >> would you mind if I asked you what your name?

[00:01:45]>> Oh, I don't give that, bro.

[00:01:46]>> You don't give that?

[00:01:47]>> What's your name and badge number, man?

[00:01:49]>> Morales. Deputy.

[00:01:51]>> Cool.

[00:01:52]>> Why you taking photos? Are you uh are you a >> Why are you taking photos of me?

[00:01:55]>> Are you a YouTuber?

[00:01:56]>> I don't answer questions.

[00:01:57]>> A lot of tattoos. You mind if I >> I don't answer questions. Go ahead. You sure that's not your personal phone?

[00:02:03]>> If I get a good >> Man, you should be educating them, man.

[00:02:05]>> Yeah. Good side profile.

[00:02:07]>> You should be educating them, man.

[00:02:09]>> So, um >> I come peacefully, dude.

[00:02:11]>> So, yeah. So, >> that's it.

[00:02:13]>> Yeah. I'm just I'm just We're here, you know. You making people feel uncomfortable.

[00:02:17]>> Oh, are you a Are you a law enforcer or a Phoenix enforcer? Man, this is law, man. And I'm allowed to do this, >> okay, >> for a living. I call >> No, you said you weren't.

[00:02:26]>> Okay. Well, you're coming at me a little trying to intimidate me. It's not going to happen.

[00:02:29]>> I just need to get some information for my contact with you.

[00:02:32]>> Okay. Well, I didn't call you, bro. I didn't call you.

[00:02:34]>> Put us on a call.

[00:02:36]>> Um out with a 13P at uh 2201 Street.

[00:02:42]>> I didn't call you, bro. They called you.

[00:02:44]So, you should talk to them.

[00:02:45]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:02:47]>> So, I just need to make sure I got good uh >> Are you sure that's not your personal phone?

[00:02:51]>> Yeah.

[00:02:52]You can't be taking Don't worry about it. You can't be taking photograph and pictures on the job.

[00:02:56]>> Tell me what I can do.

[00:02:57]>> I'm telling you on a personal phone, you take photographs, pictures, video. You can't. It becomes public record. It becomes >> No, I know enough, man.

[00:03:05]>> I'm not happy to argue any I I don't like this interaction. I don't like this interaction. I'm going to go ahead and walk outside.

[00:03:11]>> All right, that's fine. I would appreciate it if you could tell me some your name and um >> I don't give that information, bro.

[00:03:17]>> No, >> I don't give that information. Okay.

[00:03:18]>> Did I commit a crime? Sure. Did I commit a crime? I'm sure you have um I'm sure you have come in and and and disturbed the piece and different >> How is recording disturbing?

[00:03:27]>> It's going to be too difficult for me to find information on you, but you can make it a lot easier for me.

[00:03:32]>> I'm not going to make your job easier >> by just telling me.

[00:03:35]>> I'm not going to make your job easier.

[00:03:37]>> Yeah, >> I'm not going to do that. I already told you why I'm here. I didn't interact with anybody.

[00:03:42]>> That's okay.

[00:03:45]>> Okay. Yeah. I never said >> I got your name and bass number, man. If that's your personal phone, don't erase it. I'm going to foyer request that.

[00:03:50]>> You knock yourself out, sir.

[00:03:52]>> You can't do that when you're working on the clock. You can't do that, man. Not off your personal phone. You take photographs. It becomes public record.

[00:03:58]>> You know everything.

[00:03:58]>> No, I know enough. I don't know everything.

[00:04:00]>> Well, you know what? Do what you need to do.

[00:04:02]>> So, what are you what are you doing here? I mean, are you going to educate them or >> So, you know what? We have established like you said, you here in peace.

[00:04:09]>> That's it.

[00:04:09]>> I needed to find that out.

[00:04:11]>> Okay. Well, why you why Okay, that's it.

[00:04:13]>> I had an interaction with you.

[00:04:14]>> That's it.

[00:04:15]>> And I took a photograph of you.

[00:04:17]>> That's it. Just for my record, okay? You know, it also proves that you were not harmed in this interaction.

[00:04:22]>> Absolutely not. Why would I do that on camera, bro? Why would I do that on camera? I can take pamp. She interacted with me, ask me why I'm recording.

[00:04:29]That's not disturbing the >> piece. That's very upsetting, man. These people are not bothering you.

[00:04:33]>> I'm not bothering them.

[00:04:34]>> Can you shove your camera in their face and you try to intimidate me?

[00:04:37]>> Let me show you something, man.

[00:04:38]>> Is this shoving cameras in people's faces? Look, I come to take pen flips. I did this. Am I shoving in her? And then she interacted with me, telling me what I'm doing. And she ran to the back. This man was very aggressive on me, telling me to have to step outside. I don't have to do that.

[00:04:52]>> None of them done anything to hurt you.

[00:04:54]>> Have I done anything to you?

[00:04:56]>> Have I done anything to intimidate them?

[00:04:58]I just showed you what I did, dude. It's all on camera, bro. That's it. I was going to be on my way out, >> but they decided to call you guys and had a meltdown. They're not respecting my First Amendment constitutional right.

[00:05:07]You should know that you swore an oath to it. You should be defending me.

[00:05:10]>> I'm not here to You should be defending me.

[00:05:11]>> You know what? If you know if I was after you and being aggressive with you, you >> kind of you were you to try to intimidate me there. Yeah, you were. You trying to get my information without committing a crime?

[00:05:20]>> I asked you for it.

[00:05:21]>> You can't do that.

[00:05:22]>> I don't have to. I don't have to.

[00:05:25]>> I don't I I have I can refuse. Not if I if I don't commit a crime. I don't get to show give you my information. I don't have to do that.

[00:05:32]>> Oh, can you tell them?

[00:05:34]>> Yeah, bro. Listen, I come peacefully over here, bro. I came to get pamphlets.

[00:05:38]They had a meltdown. They called him and this guy's trying to intimidate me. He wants my ID and my information. You know it's not going to happen, bro.

[00:05:44]>> Why you got to change this? Why you got to say stuff like that? Because >> you did do that. My camera was a lie.

[00:05:49]I'm not going to lie. I was going to be on my way out, bro.

[00:05:52]>> I was just trying to get your information >> and this and this guy hasn't even talked to them, bro. This lady ran to the back.

[00:05:58]>> She didn't want to be recorded. I don't understand. I didn't interact with nobody. That security was rough with me telling me to get the hell out of here.

[00:06:05]Put down my camera. Come on, bro.

[00:06:08]>> I'm conducting a First Amendment audit.

[00:06:09]I know.

[00:06:09]>> You already know what I do.

[00:06:10]>> Yo, I I already know what you do.

[00:06:12]>> So, let your homeboy know, man. What's up? Him at least. He's been okay. He hasn't interacted with me. But this man right here, >> I was just getting all the documentation I need for my report.

[00:06:21]>> Yeah. And he's trying to take pictures of me. It's cool. Hope it's not your personal phone. I can for request that.

[00:06:25]I keep telling you that. Can't take photograph on your personal phone.

[00:06:28]>> Knock yourself out. You got my information.

[00:06:30]>> You definitely get one for your number.

[00:06:32]Let me know.

[00:06:33]>> I have history with him. Very good history with him. Maybe you should. You actually should listen to him right now.

[00:06:37]>> That's good. I do listen to him. Maybe you should listen to him right now.

[00:06:41]>> I come here to take p get pips and they You guys got called all of a sudden >> you know what I'm saying? You're not going to let them know what's up and educate them and look better on the camera.

[00:06:51]>> We'll talk to them.

[00:06:52]>> We'll talk to them.

[00:06:54]>> We'll talk to them by >> Yeah, we'll talk to them.

[00:06:58]>> Yeah.

[00:06:58]>> All right. Go ahead.

[00:07:01]>> Did they help you? You got everything?

[00:07:03]>> No. Yeah, I just needed the pamphlet and I was videoing and they had the lady ran to the back. I don't want to be filming.

[00:07:07]He told me to get the hell out of here.

[00:07:09]I didn't interact with nobody. And then these guys got caught. All right. Come on, man. That security guard is rude as hell, man.

[00:07:18]>> You're rude. I can film in public, dude.

[00:07:20]I can film in public, dude.

[00:07:23]>> I can film in public. He's telling me I can't film in there, bro. Can you tell him what's up, >> bro? I She So, I can do that. She interacted with me.

[00:07:34]>> I don't care what she doesn't want. I don't care what she doesn't want.

[00:07:38]>> Stop trying to act like a badass, dude.

[00:07:40]Because they're here.

[00:07:44]>> Joel, Joel, you've been arrested before, right?

[00:07:51]>> I don't answer questions, dude.

[00:07:53]>> I don't answer questions, dude.

[00:07:55]>> I don't got nothing to say. Just get back to work, dude. Get back to work.

[00:07:59]>> Get back to work.

[00:08:02]>> I just want to make sure. Yo, this goes on the This goes on the platform, dude.

[00:08:06]And you're not looking good, bro.

[00:08:07]>> I don't know why you feel intimidated by >> because the way you came at me, bro. You can't do that, man. You can't You got to go talk to them. I didn't call you.

[00:08:14]>> You already know Long and get as much information as they can. You already know, >> man. I'm not having no more word with you, man.

[00:08:19]>> Joel, you already >> Why don't you get back to work, man?

[00:08:21]How's that?

[00:08:22]>> You're dismissed, man. I don't got nothing else to tell you.

[00:08:25]>> You're dismissed, bro.

[00:08:26]>> After you.

[00:08:27]>> You're dismissed.

[00:08:28]>> After you.

[00:08:29]>> After you. I dismiss you, bro. You don't dismiss me.

[00:08:36]You're law enforcement, not fees enforcement, man. You know going to put me on Facebook.

[00:08:42]>> Not only that on Facebook, man.

[00:08:44]>> Or not.

[00:08:44]>> This is why I record you guys. You guys look the ones that look like idiots, bro. When you guys see you cool like that, I expose good too. But when you start acting like that, just because I have a camera and the but by the way I look, that looks horrible, man. On the platform. YouTube, Tik Tok, Instagram, I got everything, bro.

[00:09:01]Maybe you should have been a little more silent like your man right there and would have done your job, bro. And educate them and letting them know what I'm doing is my first amendment right.

[00:09:10]You guys sworn an oath to my rights right here. Freedom of the press, dude.

[00:09:15]>> You're not familiar of that.

[00:09:17]>> Yes.

[00:09:17]>> I hope you learned something new today, man.

[00:09:22]>> I would have been out the door, dude.

[00:09:24]Been gone in my ride.

[00:09:26]>> This one is wild from the very first minute. The auditor walks into a public lobby, calm, quiet, just grabbing pamphlets and recording. 100% legal First Amendment activity. But the staff instantly melts down. One runs to the back. The security guard jumps into full ego mode, barking, "Put the camera down!" while still filming him on a phone. Total clown show. Then a deputy shows up and instead of educating them, he goes full feelings enforcement. won't ID properly starts taking pictures like a stalker and demands the auditor's info with zero crime, zero RA, zero anything.

[00:10:03]The auditor stands his ground. No ID, no unlawful orders, no intimidation. A second deputy finally arrives, calm, professional, and instantly proves the point. Filming in a public lobby is legal. The only people disturbed are the ones who don't know the law. This video shows exactly why we record. Some cops respect rights. Others crumble the moment a citizen holds a camera. And on camera, their lies and egos get exposed every single time.

[00:10:38]>> What do you want? What do you want?

[00:10:42]>> You're illegally detaining me. What the do you want?

[00:10:45]>> Well, you're in an open parking lot.

[00:10:47]>> Yeah.

[00:10:48]>> Business suspicious.

[00:10:50]>> Okay. investigating a suspicious vehicle.

[00:10:53]>> Okay.

[00:10:54]>> Okay.

[00:10:54]>> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony?

[00:10:55]>> Do what?

[00:10:56]>> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony?

[00:10:59]>> Well, I'm seeing you.

[00:11:03]>> Okay. Have a great day. I'm not going to be illegally detained like this.

[00:11:07]>> What's your name and No. What's your name? Uh, and badge number.

[00:11:10]>> Okay.

[00:11:12]Okay.

[00:11:14]>> So, why are you here?

[00:11:22]So, why are you here?

[00:11:23]>> I'm not answering questions.

[00:11:26]>> This is private property. When you tried to take off, he tried to leave as soon as I pulled in. Why?

[00:11:34]>> Do you have a reason to be detaining me?

[00:11:36]>> Yep. I'm investigating a suspicious vehicle.

[00:11:39]>> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony?

[00:11:41]>> We're not. All right. We ain't doing this.

[00:11:43]>> All right. Well, then have a great night. I'm not giving you my driver's license. I committed no crime. Identify yourself.

[00:11:49]>> Absolutely.

[00:11:51]>> I committed no crime.

[00:12:07]>> Done.

[00:12:12]>> Let him know you're illegally detaining someone. No, I'm investigating a suspicious person, >> which is not a crime.

[00:12:19]>> Okay.

[00:12:29]>> And what's your name and badge number?

[00:12:31]>> Snook 705.

[00:12:35]>> I'm going to be YouTube famous later tonight.

[00:12:39]>> Just like Kade was. Who?

[00:12:42]>> Kade.

[00:12:47]You're wasting my time. This is an illegal detainment.

[00:12:56]Wasting my time. This is an illegal detainment.

[00:13:03]Suspicious isn't a misdemeanor or a felony.

[00:13:10]You [ __ ] up.

[00:13:13]Knowing who your piece of [ __ ] chief is, I don't doubt it.

[00:13:18]Come on, let me go. This is illegal.

[00:13:28]Come on.

[00:13:31]This is illegal.

[00:13:34]>> This is illegal.

[00:13:35]>> All you have to do is say you were cleaning.

[00:13:37]>> Uh, I don't have to answer questions.

[00:13:40]You cannot illegally detain me.

[00:13:43]>> You're a piece of >> Thank you.

[00:13:59]>> I need your name and badge number.

[00:14:02]>> Name and badge number.

[00:14:04]>> Hold on, man. I'm on the phone.

[00:14:05]>> Name and badge number.

[00:14:06]>> I'm on the phone. Can you >> name and badge? No. Name and badge number.

[00:14:11]Come on, sir. Name and badge number. Not thating hard.

[00:14:18]Come on. Bombos.

[00:14:20]Name and badge number now.

[00:14:39]Come on. Name and badge number.

[00:14:56]You [ __ ] up tonight, sir. Name and badge number.

[00:15:05]It's not that [ __ ] hard.

[00:15:12]>> What is your name and badge number?

[00:15:15]>> Officer Smith's badge number 706.

[00:15:18]>> [ __ ] off, piece of [ __ ] >> This video is short, explosive, and a perfect example of a cop creating a crime where none exists. It all starts in a parking lot. A woman sitting quietly in her car when an officer rolls up, calling it a suspicious vehicle. She immediately pushes back, asking the only question that matters. Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? The officer can't answer because being suspicious isn't a crime. Despite that, the cop tries to detain her anyway. No lawful reason, no reasonable suspicion, just pure ego. The driver refuses to ID, reminding her she hasn't committed a crime, and that suspicious isn't enough to detain anyone under the law. Backup shows up. Officer Snook and Schmidt, both just as clueless. Instead of deescalating, they double down, wasting time, refusing to give badge numbers and dragging out what's clearly an unlawful detainment. By the end, the woman stands her ground. The cops walk away embarrassed, and justice stays with the camera. Let's keep going.

[00:16:18]>> Hi there. How you doing?

[00:16:21]People were concerned that uh just make sure everything was okay with you.

[00:16:26]>> Really?

[00:16:27]>> Yes.

[00:16:27]>> Can I get your name and badge number?

[00:16:29]>> Yes. You you're recording it so you have it?

[00:16:32]>> No, I can't see it.

[00:16:35]>> Can you state your name and badge number?

[00:16:37]>> Yes.

[00:16:38]>> And who you work for?

[00:16:39]>> The the sheriff's office.

[00:16:41]>> Okay.

[00:16:42]>> So, people just call that you were out here for a park for a while and just want to make sure that you understand our parking ordinances. Wait, I can't even see because the sun is in my way.

[00:16:52]>> Well, I think it's pretty strange that they would call you that I'm parked out here. This is a public street, right?

[00:16:58]>> Yes. But >> and so the taxpayers are paying for you to come out here.

[00:17:02]>> Yes.

[00:17:03]>> Are you are you like a parking uh person or are you actual >> So I'm just I'm I'm just trying to explain to you that you know you can't park more than 72 hours.

[00:17:11]>> Explain to me what law I've broken because you can't come out here and ask me anything unless I've broken a law.

[00:17:17]>> Well, I'm just >> You're a law enforcement officer, right?

[00:17:19]>> Yes. I'm I'm trying to >> Are you a feeling enforcement officer?

[00:17:23]>> I'm sorry.

[00:17:23]>> Are you a feelings enforcement officer?

[00:17:25]>> A feeling >> or a law enforcement officer?

[00:17:28]What are you trying to >> Because you're out here trying to >> cuz I because these people >> I'm not trying that because >> I'm not trying to move you anything. I'm just uh people were just concerned >> then it doesn't make sense that I'm paying taxes for you to come over here because somebody's concerned >> that they're driving around here actually being like stalking on me.

[00:17:50]>> Okay.

[00:17:50]>> And I could park here as long as I want.

[00:17:52]I'm in a public place and you really have no right or reason to come out here. Can you get your hand out of the way?

[00:17:59]>> C can I can't see you. So, can you move your phone so I can see you? I'm just checking the welfare and they explain to you about the parking.

[00:18:07]>> Well, I'm just checking to see if you know the law as far as >> Well, I'm trying to explain to you. Are these people coming around here driving around me, walking around me, driving, walking, riding their bikes around me?

[00:18:20]>> I'm just trying to explain.

[00:18:22]Oh, they're not.

[00:18:22]>> And it has nothing to do with me parking. It has to do with these people and you're hiding your face. Are you Are you a professional officer? Are you >> Get some glasses. I mean, this is a really bizarre encounter. First of all, no law has been broken and you have no right to come out here and disturb me.

[00:18:40]>> I'm just talking to you. So, >> well, I don't want to talk to you.

[00:18:43]>> I don't need you to explain to me.

[00:18:44]>> Okay, then you know you then you're >> I've been warned of what?

[00:18:49]>> You can't be parking for 72 hours. I just got here.

[00:18:52]>> I'm just explaining to you.

[00:18:54]>> So, we're paying for you to come out here and explain to me that I could park here for 72. Why don't you go around the neighborhood and remove the boats and the trailers and the motor homes and stuff like that?

[00:19:05]>> And then come back.

[00:19:06]>> They're not concerned about me. No, they're not.

[00:19:09]>> If not, I wouldn't be >> No, they're not. They're concerned about their antique truck parked behind me or their own house or whatever.

[00:19:15]>> I don't know.

[00:19:15]>> You You're not paid for this. And And And I'm not paying you for this. Well, I'm not saying that you're paying >> I'm not paying Yes, I am. I pay taxes and I'm not paying >> you pay taxes, too, ma'am. So, anyway, >> so stop wasting our taxpayer dollars by coming out here with your gun and your clown outfit.

[00:19:29]>> I'm just trying to talk to you, but >> it seems like you don't want to talk to me. So, that's fine.

[00:19:33]>> You're coming out. I'm not paying you to come out here and talk to me.

[00:19:37]>> Well, I'm explain to you.

[00:19:39]>> Why don't you explain to the person that called you that I'm not breaking a law and you're not coming out here and wasting taxpayers dollars.

[00:19:46]>> So, all right. Well, you have a good day. Copsplaining.

[00:19:49]Copsplaining.

[00:19:53]>> This one's a perfect example of copsplaining gone wrong. A female auditor parks her van on a public street to rest and record. No crime, no traffic violation. Moments later, a deputy rolls up claiming neighbors were concerned and starts giving her a lecture about parking ordinances and 72-hour limits.

[00:20:11]The auditor pushes back hard, asking the obvious question. Are you a law enforcement officer or a feelings enforcement officer? Instead of leaving, the deputy lingers, hiding behind his car, running her plates, and digging for a reason to justify the stop. No laws been broken, no complaint filed, just taxpayer money wasted on a welfare check that turns into a pure harassment. In the end, the cop drives off empty-handed, proving exactly why these audits exist. Bottom line, no law violated, no trespass, no crime, just another officer fishing for authority where none exists. and let's keep going.

[00:20:56]>> Hi.

[00:20:57]>> How's it going?

[00:20:57]>> Good.

[00:20:59]>> What's shaking?

[00:21:00]>> I'm asking you.

[00:21:02]>> You're asking me what's shaking?

[00:21:03]>> Yeah. What's going on?

[00:21:05]>> Uh, not much. Not much.

[00:21:07]>> So, what pictures? Why are you Who are you with?

[00:21:09]>> Oh, um, well, I'm just with myself right now. Hold on a second. I want to make sure I get you guys in good light. Um, I'm just with myself right now. Just sitting out here chilling out watching an episode of Leave with the Beaver.

[00:21:19]What are you guys doing? You working or?

[00:21:21]>> Yeah.

[00:21:22]>> Yeah. Yeah. How do you like this place?

[00:21:24]They treat you well.

[00:21:25]>> So, what why are you taking videos of >> Oh, yeah. I can't really get into that.

[00:21:29]Can't really get into that. Just uh got sent out here on an assignment and bada boom. Don't mind if I get a few pictures of you, Paula.

[00:21:39]There you go. Yeah. All is well. I come in peace.

[00:21:43]I come in peace.

[00:21:46]There you go. Want to get a better picture? I'd be happy to pose for you.

[00:21:49]All is well. All is well. Okay.

[00:21:51]>> Hope you guys >> You're going to not let us know where you're from.

[00:21:54]>> I really I really Where are you from?

[00:21:57]N I I can't I can't uh really get into that, I'm afraid.

[00:22:00]>> Okay.

[00:22:01]>> So, I come in peace. Just all you need to know. I come in peace.

[00:22:10]Now, if you come out with a bottle of water, I might have been a little more chatty, but it's hot out here.

[00:22:22]>> Police Department.

[00:22:25]>> Hi, this is Paul with Fast Credit Union on Southern Street. There's a gentleman outside taking pictures and video of our institution going through the windows and things like that. He won't tell us where he's from at all. um why he's taking pictures, what he's doing, and of course that concerns us for security.

[00:22:45]>> Okay. And did anyone try speaking with him?

[00:22:48]>> Yeah, I've tried, sir. And he's just really Yeah, he's like he continues to film me and uh he says he comes in peace, but he is is, you know, going to be doing this and I will not give you any information whatsoever.

[00:23:02]>> Okay, I'll get someone over there to see what's going on and what he's up to.

[00:23:05]Okay.

[00:23:06]>> Calling the police on a guy out taking photos. I mean, I've made any threats.

[00:23:10]I've been very cordial, I thought. Um, so it's just weird. It's weird.

[00:23:16]>> But it is what it is. You know, there's a lot of, you know, this day and age, a lot of people out there with mental illnesses that, uh, you know, call the police on people that aren't breaking laws. It's crazy.

[00:23:26]Got a couple cameras up here, two there, one down here. That would be three.

[00:23:36]There's going to be one in the ATM and before you give a little peace sign there so you know I come in peace.

[00:23:42]>> So you're also talking about our security camera.

[00:23:45]>> I am. Yeah. Yeah. I am actually >> members of the ATM.

[00:23:49]>> I'm sorry. Wait. I'm doing what to me?

[00:23:50]>> I'm filming the members at the ATM.

[00:23:52]>> I assure you I am not filming your members at the ATM. Lady, you're crazy.

[00:23:55]If you think I I haven't aimed my camera at that ATM more than two seconds as I was walking by, you need to get mental health uh mental health counseling or something. It's crazy. So, and >> I think you have a job to do. Wouldn't you like be inside? I don't know. Doing your job. I'm out on a public sidewalk.

[00:24:13]Paula, >> what are you thinking, man?

[00:24:16]>> But you were talking to whom about the security?

[00:24:18]>> I'm talking to the recording I'm making.

[00:24:20]I'm making a recording. See, it's it's recording right now. See me? I Yeah.

[00:24:23]Yeah. So, I was recording talking about the building and Oh, wait. There's another one over there. One, two. Yeah, there'd be one in the ATM. There's three. That's four, five. If there'd be one around the corner in this ATM, that's six. Yes. Yes. You see, I I learned how to count at a very young age from Sesame Street and uh the count on Sesame Street. Big fan. Big fan. So, I like to walk around going one one camera.

[00:24:50]Two. Two cameras. So, so far I found six cameras. But yeah, people walking around your building counting cameras. I don't think that should be caused for you to come outside, stand on a public sidewalk, and recording them. You do you, Paula. It's a free country. It's a free country. Yeah. I'm not following your members around at the ATM. I assure you. Strange. You got another one out here taking pictures. You think you guys would be inside working, but that's just me. I don't know. That's just me.

[00:25:27]>> How you doing?

[00:25:27]>> No complaints.

[00:25:29]>> You're making everybody in nervous. I think the word you're looking for is paranoid. I'm making the people in the bank paranoid. My advice to them to Paula, hey, hey, Paula, is to go inside and do your job.

[00:25:40]>> It's okay. Nobody's out here. You know, I there's no guns on me. I'm out here sipping my water, taking pictures.

[00:25:45]Paula, relax, man. Chill out. You have a job to do. It's not stand outside taking photos on a sidewalk.

[00:25:51]>> Why didn't you tell her why you're here for 10 seconds?

[00:25:53]>> Because it's none of her business. I'm I told her what I'm out here for. I'm out here watching old episodes of Leave at the Beaver and I'm taking some pictures.

[00:25:59]That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. I mean, I'm certainly not causing any troubles taking photos on a sidewalk for God's sakes. It's weird.

[00:26:13]And is it Ellen? How Paula, you're getting uncomfortably close. And I will defend myself. If you touch me, I will I will hit you with a taser. Okay? I want to make sure that's crystal clear. You are very much in my person. Oh, did you just kick my pole? Paula. Paula, do it again and see what happens to you. I'm not going to be assaulted by you, Paula.

[00:26:34]Get out of my face.

[00:26:36]Get out. Thank you. Yeah, you're crossing a line, Paula. I'm standing here in a public sidewalk and you start getting in my face. That's how you get hurt. I will defend myself. Absolutely.

[00:26:48]>> How are you going to defend yourself?

[00:26:51]>> You'll find out if she assaults me again. She just came over here and kicked my pole.

[00:26:56]She just walked over here and kicked my camera pole. Ma'am, >> she came over here and kicked >> it on purpose >> that she got so close she kicked it on accident. Huh? Oh, yeah. There's the police.

[00:27:07]>> What's that?

[00:27:07]>> Why are you doing that?

[00:27:09]>> Why am I standing on a public sidewalk taking pictures?

[00:27:12]>> I'm I'm out here taking pictures.

[00:27:14]>> Because she's your wife or if it was your daughter or your your grandchildren, would you like them to be recording you?

[00:27:21]>> Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great.

[00:27:22]>> Yeah, that would be great. Well, go bring your grandkids over here so I can record them, too.

[00:27:26]>> All right.

[00:27:26]>> Cuz he looks stupid as hell.

[00:27:28]>> All right, >> dude. Hey, he just took a picture of the car and me.

[00:27:36]>> No, he's not. No, he's not because he can track me to my house. And if he tracks me to my house, we're having problems.

[00:27:43]>> No, sir. No. I told him no.

[00:27:45]>> Okay. You're a public.

[00:27:46]>> I don't give a [ __ ] He's not Google.

[00:27:48]>> Where's your Look at him. Look at him.

[00:27:51]>> I'll explain to you.

[00:27:53]your foot. Where's your Where's your your >> God bless America.

[00:27:59]>> I'm good. How are you, >> officer? Is it? But don't tell me.

[00:28:02]>> This was a [ __ ] clown.

[00:28:06]>> All right, >> dude. But when I'm coming into my bank, >> and then he has my license plate number now. So, if he gets me for fraud and he's taking pictures of me, are you guys [ __ ] crazy in the brain?

[00:28:19]>> No. I'm not going to have a better day until this idiot hits my >> Well, you can leave. If you're worried, you can leave.

[00:28:25]>> I'm not worried. And he was about to hit that lady right there.

[00:28:28]>> I was about to hit her. Okay. Bless your heart. I'm glad you're a mind greeter.

[00:28:31]Come on.

[00:28:32]>> I'm glad I'm just go. Just go.

[00:28:35]>> Tell you this is what I'm dealing with out here. Crazy, man. Crazy. How are you, brother? Good.

[00:28:40]>> How are you, brother? Get the out of the way of a franchise where people go to put their money in the face. Ma'am, the only one out here right now that's that that's even close to breaking a law is you. Ma'am, >> breaking a law. Tell me, >> would you like to tell she's uh getting close to breaking the law?

[00:28:55]>> Not breaking any law just like you're not breaking the law by reporting. She is the first person.

[00:28:58]>> All right. So, she can be out yelling obscinities at people on the sidewalk.

[00:29:02]>> Well, is it disturbing the peace? At what point is it cross the line?

[00:29:06]>> To look up court law and actually the peace using harsh and inappropriate language for 415 if that's what you're looking for. 415 is fighting words essentially. So, if you're just saying do that is >> stick around. I suspect we'll get some fighting words from her eventually.

[00:29:19]>> I I would hope not.

[00:29:21]>> She's not too bright.

[00:29:22]>> Well, >> not too bright.

[00:29:25]>> I said you're not too bright.

[00:29:26]>> Don't talk to me cuz you're the idiot who's [ __ ] recording random ass people. You dumb. And >> you're the one that seems to think it's illegal to take photos in public.

[00:29:33]>> Nobody said it was illegal. I said I didn't approve.

[00:29:36]>> And that is illegal once somebody says they don't approve of you.

[00:29:39]>> I'm afraid it's not. It's not. You're just wrong. Sorry, Lady Gaga. It's not illegal. Lady Gaga, your mom, you piece of [ __ ] >> Lady Gaga, you even watch Lady Gaga.

[00:29:55]>> No, he is. And the fact that you guys are just letting him handle it.

[00:29:59]>> You're not handling it.

[00:30:01]>> We are handling, >> but you're not.

[00:30:02]>> You're not understanding. Maybe this is the reaction you want.

[00:30:06]>> He's going to get a bigger one on your foot.

[00:30:08]>> Okay. So, >> that sounds like fighting words.

[00:30:10]>> Your [ __ ] face.

[00:30:12]>> Oh. Oh, see that sound like fighting words. Sound like you just made a threat.

[00:30:14]>> I didn't make no threat.

[00:30:15]>> At what point is it fighting words?

[00:30:19]>> There you go.

[00:30:22]Hey, wait. Wait. Let me give you a little heart here. Oh, >> all right.

[00:30:28]>> [ __ ] >> Well, obviously there's concern. I'm not doing anything. You heard me say that like three or four times.

[00:30:33]>> Um, >> they're just kind of concerned about the cameras and everything that's going on there.

[00:30:37]>> I want to get you in better light, brother. Um, yeah, they are they're cons. That's I appreciate the hypocrisy of that. They got six cameras on their building. They're concerned about my camera.

[00:30:45]>> Sure. I guess I guess the logical response to that would be that their cameras are not going out to wherever this is going to go. They know where their cameras are, right? So, there's a difference in that. Their camera is a closed system that's not accessible or viewable to everybody who wants to view it, whether it goes up to Facebook to YouTube. But, as I explained to them, I explained to her, you know, I made it illegal. Um, so I would you like are you are you writing the story? Is there a reason you're doing this? just taking I was actually standing here watching an episode of Leave the Beaver on my phone and taking a few pictures and the lovely Paula came out and started filming me.

[00:31:18]She actually got so close to my face, she actually kicked my uh my uh monopod here. I was holding it like this and she got so close to me she kicked it. I came this I told her I gave her a warning and said, "I will defend myself. If you touch me again, I will defend myself."

[00:31:35]And and it just it wouldn't be pleasant for her. I'm not going to stand out here on a public sidewalk and be assaulted and harassed by credit union employees.

[00:31:44]If you have something to do inside, go do it. But if you're going to stand outside, I'm guessing it's you got the freedom to stand on the sidewalk and record me as much as you want. But the longer this goes, the longer you're going to look like an idiot. I'm not breaking the law, Paula. Why would you call the police on a man taking photos on a public sidewalk? I'm not yelling at you. I'm not screaming at you. I'm not doing anything mean or nasty. I'm out here minding my own business, watching a little show on my phone and taking some pictures and you call the police. You don't think they have better things to do than come out here and respond to guy taking photos?

[00:32:13]>> I mean, no reason to be out here unless you want to go look.

[00:32:15]>> Oh, Paula wants to stand outside taking photos for hours.

[00:32:19]>> She'll talk to you.

[00:32:26]>> Ridiculous.

[00:32:30]>> Oh, now you got other people taking pictures there. Follow. There you go. A lady down there is taking pictures. It looks like Oh, she's like, "Oh, oh, he caught me."

[00:32:39]>> She's going to play for a while. She's recording.

[00:32:40]>> No, I know. It's just It's funny. It's I find it amusing. They got all these cameras out here. I'm walking on the sidewalk and they came out, >> you know, it is I'm not saying it's anything that's worrisome to me. I record everything I do. My body came on and Yeah.

[00:32:51]>> But people sometimes react maybe in a way that it's not normal behavior, so they get worked up over it.

[00:32:58]>> Yeah. I mean, I'd understand if I was banging on the windows or standing outside making opportun gestures to them or something like that, but it's literally I'm standing outside. So, other than this, you having a good day?

[00:33:06]>> Is there an AC unit available? I'm getting reports of a behind.

[00:33:16]>> I was having an okay day.

[00:33:18]>> Well, surely this can't ruin your day.

[00:33:20]>> Oh, no. This is This is not >> Hey, let me ask you a question. Is does Hanford have a how can I put this gently? Is there a is there a serious drug problem in this town?

[00:33:32]>> There there is a >> reason I ask I have no weapons on me.

[00:33:34]Let me show you something. I got there's a guy down the street down here that he uh came up to me and he asked me if I wanted to buy a little Coke and I'm like heck yeah. So I just got I just got a little Coke from him and I just thought maybe is that >> Is there a drug problem in the Central Valley? Yes, there's a drug in Central Valley.

[00:33:54]I grew up in the Sanwaqin Valley. So, >> okay.

[00:33:57]>> I was just I was just tell telling officer Rivera, I said some guy down the corner sold me a little Coke.

[00:34:02]>> Oh, nice. A little. It's a little bit.

[00:34:04]>> That's not enough to satisfy though.

[00:34:07]>> More than that to get satisfied.

[00:34:08]>> Unless it was the old stuff that actually had the the coke. Can you believe that? He used to put cocaine in Coca-Cola.

[00:34:12]>> They did back.

[00:34:13]>> That's wild.

[00:34:13]>> Insane.

[00:34:14]>> All right. So, >> so addicting.

[00:34:16]>> Like I I you heard me explain to everybody that I've come up to, there's nothing illegal about you taking pictures. They all you have to come out here. Uh, we have to do our job on it.

[00:34:24]That's pretty much it. Uh, I'm not saying you have to leave. Is there a time should you intend to leave? Is it >> Oh, um, you know, I typically >> to 15 minutes or I mean, like I said, I'm not telling you you have to go anymore. I'm just asking people so I can tell them.

[00:34:39]>> I don't have a specific amount of time I'm going to be around. I've been I've been all over. I don't know if you if you've seen I've been all over town taking pictures. These guys are really the only ones that came out and had a major problem with it and decided to call the police on me. Sure.

[00:34:52]>> So, um, yeah, I'm not going to do it terribly long, but I can't really give you a time frame on it.

[00:34:56]>> Okay. Well, that's fine. I I'm asking because I >> Sure. Sure. Doesn't hurt to ask.

[00:35:00]>> So, I can give them a statement and that hopefully they will be a little more at ease about it. Like I said, there's nothing much that >> usually what I do, just so you know, is I would typically stick around till after the police leave just so they know they didn't scare me off the police.

[00:35:11]Otherwise, it teaches them a lesson. If they call the police, it'll make law- abiding citizen they don't like go away.

[00:35:16]So, I typically stick around until after the police leave just let them know I'm still here and I'll leave on my terms, not on theirs.

[00:35:24]>> I was very polite to them. I really was.

[00:35:26]>> And I never said you weren't. So, >> and I never had any issue with that. So, >> so I am curious though, the little gal that pulled over here and was swearing and yelling at me. At what point does it become fighting words when when she's over here saying that uh I believe >> you know what? I want to aim this away from the ATM because I'm thoughtful and considerate unlike uh what's her face that came out here and suggested I was recording her her folks at the ATM.

[00:35:47]>> The fighting words would be fall under 415 DC 415.

[00:35:49]>> So if she's threatening me saying I will kick your ass, does that count?

[00:35:52]>> Well, if she says I'm going to kick your ass and it's legitimate a threat that you take legitimately. Yes. That couldn't rise to level of it's not disturbing the peace. Well, it is it's a 415 charge, so it is disturbing the peace.

[00:36:02]>> Yeah, it seemed like it was disturbing the peace to me. I mean, she was the one that was escalating it from from here to here. When I walked up, it was if this happens, there's going to be a problem.

[00:36:10]That's not a specific >> personalized threat of any physical violence. All that is is her being voicing frustration. So, that's kind of what I told her that she's free to leave and you're free to record her and take pictures of her and all that stuff you like to do. And um obviously she didn't want to. So, >> isn't it wild that in 2024 people think that you have to have their permission to take a photo of them in public?

[00:36:31]>> Sure.

[00:36:31]>> It's crazy. Crazy. This camera is everywhere and it's like you got my permission. Oh, that's just silly.

[00:36:38]Silliness.

[00:36:39]>> Anyho, I won't hold you guys up anymore.

[00:36:40]>> All right.

[00:36:41]>> I wish I had some water on me, though. I ran out of water. I need to go find >> a little Coke.

[00:36:45]>> Got a little Coke.

[00:36:46]>> All right, sir. My name is Officer Rivera.

[00:36:48]>> Yeah. Let me get a fist bump. I broke my hand somewhat recently, so it's a little sort of Rivera. And And do you guys have like badge numbers in this town?

[00:36:53]>> 1469.

[00:36:54]>> 1469. And >> 14129.

[00:36:56]>> 14129. Appreciate you guys. You have a good one. Be safe.

[00:36:59]>> This one's a full-blown First Amendment masterass. a peaceful citizen taking photos outside a credit union in Hanford, California, and an overreacting employee who turns a calm situation into a circus. The filmer is standing on a public sidewalk drinking water, taking a few photos. No threats, no crime, just lawful activity. But one employee storms outside, starts filming him back, kicks his camera pole, and gets way too close, forcing the auditor to warn her to back off or face self-defense. From there, the situation spirals. Customers, bystanders, and even random people from the parking lot start shouting, swearing, and making wild accusations.

[00:37:36]All because someone dared to use a camera in public. When police arrive, the contrast couldn't be clearer. The officers stay calm, confirm he's doing nothing wrong, and even explain the law to the angry crowd. One cop breaks it down perfectly. Public filming isn't illegal, offensive words aren't fighting, and being paranoid isn't probable cause. The filmer, as always, stays cool, logical, and fully within his rights, exposing how ignorance and emotion fuel these false disturbance calls. And just when you think it's over, the story flips. The auditor ends up meeting friendly locals who own a small handmade hat business, gives them a shout out, and turns a tense confrontation into a positive community moment, proving that not everyone's afraid of a camera. Public photography isn't suspicious. It's protected. One citizen with a camera exposed just how fragile common sense can be and reminded everyone that freedom of the press still stands strong in America.

[00:38:32]>> Let's keep going.

[00:38:35]>> Can I help you?

[00:38:37]>> Who are you, sir?

[00:38:38]>> Anything with the cause? Why are you trying to check the cars if they're open?

[00:38:42]>> Are can I help you with anything, sir?

[00:38:43]>> I'm asking you. Can I help you?

[00:38:45]>> I don't know who you are.

[00:38:46]>> I >> I don't know who you are, sir.

[00:38:49]>> I just saw you touching the back door of that car. Why are you messing with this armpit? Sir, I would like to know who you are. I don't know.

[00:38:55]>> I'm Lieutenant Conway.

[00:38:56]>> Lieutenant Conway?

[00:38:57]>> Yes.

[00:38:57]>> Yeah. I don't need any help, Lieutenant.

[00:38:59]>> Okay. Thank you.

[00:39:02]>> You can't touch the cars. All right. You can film all >> Why can't I touch the car?

[00:39:06]>> Cuz I don't know if you're trying to break in and steal something.

[00:39:09]>> Okay.

[00:39:09]>> Why would I break into a vehicle?

[00:39:11]>> I don't know. People do it all the time.

[00:39:13]>> Well, that's on my that's on my intention here. But >> I'm just checking to make sure everything's okay.

[00:39:18]>> Awesome. I appreciate your help.

[00:39:20]>> Okay, great. Yeah. Have a great day, Lieutenant. You take care.

[00:39:25]Hey, how are you?

[00:39:26]>> Precin J RDA 2231 S7P. What's going on?

[00:39:28]>> Hey, how are you? Nothing much. How you doing, sir?

[00:39:31]>> Hey, >> can I get your name and badge number, please?

[00:39:33]>> Yeah, 114.

[00:39:35]>> Thanks. How you guys doing?

[00:39:36]>> What's going on, man?

[00:39:37]>> Uh, nothing much. I was just speaking to you, Lieutenant.

[00:39:41]>> Okay.

[00:39:41]>> Okay, >> that's it.

[00:39:43]>> Is this something?

[00:39:44]>> Something unique? I hope you >> No, I'm okay. I'm all right. Thank you.

[00:39:48]No, I was just speaking with the lieutenant out here. That's all.

[00:39:50]>> About what?

[00:39:51]>> About the vehicles here. That's all.

[00:39:52]>> What's wrong with the vehicles? You got that issue?

[00:39:55]>> Well, yeah. For, for example, you know, that has a big windshield. Uh, the windshield on this cruiser right here has a big crack in it. So, I was just checking that. It's, you know, it's for safety purposes.

[00:40:06]>> Hey, how you doing?

[00:40:07]>> How's it going, sir? I'm Lieutenant >> Triasana.

[00:40:09]>> Hey, Lieutenant. How are you? Speaking to another Lieutenant.

[00:40:12]>> So, um, I don't mind if you guys like, like I said, you hang out here. You got to film, do what you want to do. The only thing I ask is just please don't yank on the door handles. Oh, I was just making sure that they weren't open.

[00:40:23]>> Just Yeah, I appreciate that. Just check that for me. I appreciate it.

[00:40:26]>> No, but I I'd like to check on all the I like to check on all the uh taxpayer vehicles, make sure that they're being properly secured, safety purposes and everything because as you can see there, Lieutenant, that vehicle I don't it looks like it's in service right here, but it it has a uh huge crack in the windshield. Could be unsafe for someone to drive. Probably should be taking care of that.

[00:40:45]>> Saying I'm Lieutenant Chisano. I'm just advising you please stop going on the door handles.

[00:40:49]>> Yeah, I'm just checking to make sure they're open. That's all. They're not open.

[00:40:51]>> You like a contact card?

[00:40:52]>> A contact card?

[00:40:54]>> My contact card.

[00:40:54]>> Oh, no. I'm okay, Lieutenant. Thank you.

[00:40:56]I don't need that. I got your name.

[00:40:57]Yeah. You have a great day, too.

[00:40:58]>> Thank you.

[00:41:01]>> Hey, what's going on, buddy? You can't record. There's a sign right there that says, "Members of the public are prohibited from audio recording. Please shut the audio recorder off."

[00:41:10]>> RA22317.

[00:41:13]>> Did I say it was on? I didn't say it was on.

[00:41:15]>> Let me see. You're recording. Do you have pro my chest?

[00:41:18]>> Do you have probable cause to search my property, sir?

[00:41:21]>> What?

[00:41:21]>> Do you have probable cause? A warrant to search my property?

[00:41:24]>> Warrant?

[00:41:24]>> Yeah. Do you have >> What does that sign say? You have your phone out. It's facing me.

[00:41:27]>> But does that mean that I'm recording?

[00:41:29]>> Let my boss.

[00:41:30]>> I'm not Who says that I'm recording?

[00:41:32]>> Okay. I just want to make like you said, I I I don't mind you filming out there.

[00:41:36]Okay. But it's prohibited to filming.

[00:41:38]>> But I never said I was filming outside to begin with.

[00:41:40]>> Okay.

[00:41:40]>> You made that assumption.

[00:41:41]>> But again, you're holding a phone up as you're mimicking a recording. I'm just letting you know if you are recording, you're in violation. You're trespassing and I'm just advising you. You're not allowed to record inside a police precinct.

[00:41:52]>> But no one said I was recording.

[00:41:53]>> I'm just saying just please, okay? You cannot record inside a police precinct.

[00:41:57]Okay? You're holding up a phone mimicking as if you're recording.

[00:42:00]>> But there's there's nothing illegal about that, Lieutenant.

[00:42:03]>> You there isn't. You're right. But if you are not allowed to film inside a police precinct, you could be subject to arrest for trespassing. Okay? So if you're recording inside a police precinct, you are subject to trespassing. you subjected to.

[00:42:15]>> But do you have do you have reasonable article suspicion that I'm committing a crime?

[00:42:18]>> Sir, again, I'm telling you, I don't want any I don't want any issues with you either, Lieutenant.

[00:42:24]>> This is the deal. I told you >> I understand that you have an unconstitutional policy here.

[00:42:28]>> Right to film outside.

[00:42:29]>> I have a right to film inside if I wanted to, but I'm not saying that.

[00:42:32]>> Okay. There's there's signage telling that it is prohibited to film inside of the police precinct.

[00:42:37]>> That's not a law, sir.

[00:42:39]>> You are not allowed to film inside of a police precinct.

[00:42:42]>> Okay. But I never said I was. That's That's it. You You are not allowed to film inside of the police.

[00:42:45]>> He's filming inside of the police precinct right now. And I'm sure you are, too.

[00:42:48]>> I am. I'm active on my body camera. So, I'm just letting you know if you're filming inside a police precinct, we're going to ask you to leave. Okay.

[00:42:56]>> But who said I was filming?

[00:42:57]>> Just hold on. Just hand me down for a second.

[00:42:58]>> I'm going to hear you out. Sure.

[00:42:59]>> I'm going to I'm going to just ask you if you're filming to leave. Okay. I'm assume by you holding up your phone like this with your phone pointing towards me. I'm assuming that you're recording it's got a police greasing. Well, that would be making a huge assumption because there was a woman there was a woman two years ago that was had her arm broken for filming inside the police station and she actually said she was and she actually wasn't. She was just saying so maybe I'm just holding the camera up, you know, my phone up just because I want to.

[00:43:23]>> You are filming. I'm going to ask that you leave.

[00:43:26]>> I don't want to answer any questions.

[00:43:28]>> I'm not asking you. I'm not I'm not I'm not asking you any questions.

[00:43:31]>> Okay, great.

[00:43:32]>> I'm just telling you >> if you are indeed filming. Okay. Like I said, I will check How would you know?

[00:43:37]>> I will check the precinct cameras. I'm going to check the precinct cameras. If I see that you are filming, >> okay, >> I'm going to ask you to leave. If you don't want to leave, you're going to be subject to arrest for trespassing.

[00:43:47]>> But can we agree that just can we can we agree on something, Lieutenant? Wait, can we just agree on something, Lieutenant? Holding my phone to my chest, it doesn't mean that I'm recording. Correct.

[00:43:55]>> Well, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, you're you're holding a phone up, gesturing as if you're recording, >> but that doesn't mean that I am.

[00:44:02]>> But again, this is this is a normal stance that everybody takes when they're recording.

[00:44:05]>> But it doesn't mean that I am. But somebody could hold their phone in this in this in this manner without recording though.

[00:44:11]>> Check the precinct cameras.

[00:44:12]>> Sure. Go ahead. Check check them.

[00:44:13]>> If you are filming again, you're not >> I don't see how you would tell from the cameras if I'm filming or not.

[00:44:18]>> There are cameras everywhere in this building. I'm going to check the precinct cameras.

[00:44:21]>> If you are indeed filming, I'm just going to advise you to leave. You're not in trouble. You're not under arrest. I'm just going to ask you to leave.

[00:44:28]>> Okay. I I just don't see how you'd know I'm filming or not.

[00:44:31]>> If you refuse to leave, you could be subject to arrest.

[00:44:34]>> Oh, I I've been I've been arrested. I've been arrested for filming in the police department before. I'm I'm just saying that there's there's nothing.

[00:44:40]>> Do you want my contact card again?

[00:44:41]>> I'll take it. Sure, why not? Yeah, we'll have we had enough interaction at this point and you're, you know, threatening arrest and things. So, I want to make sure that I know who you are.

[00:44:47]>> I'm not threatening arrest. I'm >> Oh, for sure. I'm just holding my phone here.

[00:44:50]>> You could be subject to arrest for >> But wait, hypothetically, but listen, hypothetically, Lieutenant, hypothetically, I see the sign there where it says members cannot are from recording. So, I'm holding I'm telling you, I'm holding my phone to my chest. I don't answer any of questions above that. But if someone came in here secretly recording >> Uh-huh.

[00:45:09]>> How would you stop them from doing that?

[00:45:10]Would that be breaking the law?

[00:45:11]Lieutenant, >> think about it. That I'm trying to prove the silliness >> of your sign here because if somebody came in here secretly recording, which is the person that would want to do more damage would probably do secretly recording, right? But in New York State, there's nothing illegal about secretly recording. Correct.

[00:45:29]>> So to answer your question, no. Like I would have no idea if someone was recording if they were secretly recording. So >> and then they go post that video online.

[00:45:38]Could you do anything about it?

[00:45:39]>> No. Like I >> because there's nothing illegal.

[00:45:41]>> They can't. Exact.

[00:45:42]>> So >> that's what I'm saying. That sign is silly. It's just silly.

[00:45:46]>> The point you're trying to make cuz technically no. It's not illegal per se, but if you're doing it inside of a police precinct and we advise you to leave, you could be subject to arrest.

[00:45:56]So that's why >> criminal trespassing.

[00:45:58]>> Exactly.

[00:45:58]>> In public. Not for filming per se.

[00:46:01]There's no charge for filming.

[00:46:02]>> No, I'm aware of that. But that's what I'm saying is that it it seems kind of disingenuous to sign. It's kind of like, hey, if you're openly filming, we're going to tell you to leave a a public lobby, which you have every right to be in in any other circumstance. Any other circumstance, I have a right to be here.

[00:46:15]Correct.

[00:46:16]>> But you're saying because I'm because if I was filming, >> I would be subject to arrest for criminal trespassing. But that seems disingenuous because you're saying that if I secretly record then that's okay because I can't tell you to leave at that point.

[00:46:29]>> There's no way of me knowing that the secret can't determine if you're secretly recording >> and you can't deter you can't determine if I'm recording and have reasonable suspicions to believe that you are recording right now and even if I'm like reasonable suspicion of what >> but you need to have but but wait reasonable suspicion officer of a crime that's what you need in order to crime to be filming inside of a police station. He just told you that it wasn't.

[00:46:51]>> He just told you. The lieutenant just said that it wasn't.

[00:46:54]>> That sign. Sir, you're wrong. No, it's not. You're wrong. The lieutenant just said that it's not a crime to film inside of a police station.

[00:47:02]>> And I just >> He just said that. I'll take your contact information. He just said that.

[00:47:06]Are you paying attention to this conversation or not? Cuz that's what he just said. That sign is not a law.

[00:47:11]>> It's not.

[00:47:12]>> It's a law in this building.

[00:47:14]>> No, it's not a law in this building.

[00:47:15]That's ridiculous to even say.

[00:47:17]>> So, what's going on there? That's ridiculous.

[00:47:21]>> I'll talk. So, yeah.

[00:47:22]>> Yeah, you're escalating the situation.

[00:47:23]>> I just I just um I just asked again if you're not here to do a report per se, you could hang out here for a sec.

[00:47:31]Again, I'm not going to I'm I'm let me do my thing. Okay. If I do indeed see that you are recording, if there's a camera capturing your recording device actually in progress, all I'm going to do is just simply ask, hey, sir, to either stop recording. If you don't want to stop recording, I'll ask you to leave at that point. I'm not threatening arrest on you. I'm just telling you, I'm advising you. If you refuse to leave and we determine that you are recording, you don't stop recording.

[00:47:56]>> I just don't see how you determine that >> to rest the criminal justice.

[00:47:58]>> I just I I understand what you're saying. I I understand what Listen Listen. I might >> You've been cordial with me. You've been respectful with me. I'm going to treat you in the same. Your officer, not so much. But I will just say that there is literal no way of you knowing that I'm recording other than taking my property.

[00:48:14]And you, Lieutenant, know you can't take my property, right? Because because like I just explained to this officer, it's not a crime to record. So even if you had a reasonable suspicion that I was recording, which >> you probably do, right? You probably have a reasonable suspicion I'm recording. That in and of itself isn't a crime. So that's why I'm trying to say that means you can't take my phone from me right now and check. Right. That's the silliness and that's the pettiness that I'm trying to illustrate here, Lieutenant.

[00:48:39]>> And I I I agree with you. I agree with you. I understand that you didn't make the policy and I I get it. But you definitely did take an oath to uphold our constitutional rights.

[00:48:49]>> 100%. I take that very serious.

[00:48:51]>> I hope you do.

[00:48:52]>> I take it very serious.

[00:48:53]>> I hope you do.

[00:48:54]>> Do you have anything that you need to like >> Can I get a complaint form? Actually, >> I would appreciate that. Thank you.

[00:49:00]Appreciate that. Thanks.

[00:49:03]>> Sir, >> hey, Lieutenant.

[00:49:04]>> I'm sorry to bother you again.

[00:49:07]>> Again, I just want to let you know again this is being recorded on body camera.

[00:49:10]>> Sure.

[00:49:11]>> So, I have reasonable suspicion that you are recording. I'm going to ask you in the most respectful way. You're not under arrest.

[00:49:19]>> I'm asking for my complaint form.

[00:49:21]>> I'm just asking you to leave the precinct.

[00:49:24]>> For what reasonable suspicion do you have?

[00:49:26]>> You are You are holding the device up to your chest, pointing it for an extended period of time, leading me to believe that you are recording inside of >> I like to hold my phone like this for my safety so no one steals it.

[00:49:37]>> Sir, that's People speak to themselves all the time. Officer, >> give me a second.

[00:49:41]I'm asking you.

[00:49:43]>> Didn't I ask you for a complaint form?

[00:49:45]Cuz now I need one.

[00:49:46]>> Hold on one second. Hold on.

[00:49:47]>> Can we make a deal?

[00:49:49]>> I will leave as soon as you give me on my complaint form.

[00:49:51]>> There's no bering, sir. I'm just going to ask this.

[00:49:53]>> So, you're not you're going to deny me services, Lieutenant.

[00:49:55]>> Facilitate whatever complaint you want to make. Whatever complaint you want to make, I will facilitate that for you.

[00:49:59]I'm going to ask you to stop recording.

[00:50:01]>> But I never said that I was.

[00:50:02]>> I'm just Then you're you're holding your phone up.

[00:50:05]>> But is it illegal to hold your phone this way, sir?

[00:50:07]>> No, it's not. But you're you're leading me to believe. But if I held my phone like this, like a normal person, and I was still recording, it it wouldn't make any difference.

[00:50:15]>> I think we're talking over each other.

[00:50:16]Just give me a second. Give me a minute to talk. Let me say what I got to say. I promise you, I will hear everything you have to say. Okay? Just give me a minute to talk cuz you keep on interrupting each other. So, you're holding your phone up in a manner that's giving me reasonable suspicion that you are recording inside of a police precinct. I'm formally asking you to stop doing that. The manner in which you're acting, which you're holding up your phone, I'm asking you to stop doing that. I'm going to tell you, please put your phone in your pocket. Stop pointing your camera towards this piece. That is leading me to believe that you are recording inside of a police precinct.

[00:50:53]That's all I'm asking you. Once you put your camera down, >> but you have no you have no reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, sir.

[00:50:59]I'm not I am here lawfully. I'm here lawfully and I'm asking for a complaint form and I will be on my way. If you can grab me a complaint form, I will be on my way.

[00:51:08]>> I again a complaint form for what?

[00:51:11]>> For what? What do you do?

[00:51:12]>> Because you're you're you're assuming now I'm going to now I'm going to file a formal complaint against yourself and this officer because you're assuming that I am recording without any sort of proof >> that I'm recording. You have no proof.

[00:51:22]You have a hunch.

[00:51:23]>> Sir, I'm going to ask you >> I want to complain for him.

[00:51:26]>> I'll I'll do a CC brief. I'm going to ask you to leave the precinct though.

[00:51:29]I'm going to ask you to leave the precinct. Can you read the precinct because you're recording inside of I'm assuming that you're recording?

[00:51:34]>> You're assuming precinct. You're assuming I'm recording.

[00:51:36]>> I have reasonable suspicion that you are recording inside of the police precinct.

[00:51:39]>> Okay. So, you're going to bring me the complaint form outside? No, I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk I'm talking to your supervisor.

[00:51:45]>> I'm I'm I'm >> What are you doing escalating?

[00:51:47]>> To leave the precinct.

[00:51:48]>> So, can I will leave the precinct? Are you going to under threat? If I don't leave the precinct, you will arrest me, Lieutenant. Is that what you're telling me?

[00:51:53]>> If you do not leave the precinct right now, you will be arrested for criminal trespass.

[00:51:57]>> Can you bring me Can you bring me a complaint form outside? We'll talk outside if you did not leave the prec.

[00:52:00]>> Can you bring me the complaint form outside?

[00:52:02]>> Whatever it is you want. I'm asking >> Can you bring me the complaint form outside?

[00:52:06]>> Sir, leave the precinct.

[00:52:07]>> Can you bring me the complaint form outside?

[00:52:09]>> You're you're you're ejecting me from a precinct.

[00:52:11]>> Whatever you Whatever you >> You're ejecting me from a precinct without knowing anything about what I'm doing here. I'm here to file a complaint.

[00:52:17]>> Okay. I appreciate you leaving the precinct. Okay. Again, if you want to talk, we'll talk out here. You're not allowed to report inside of the police.

[00:52:25]Okay. G A R D A 22317 is my shield number.

[00:52:29]>> Okay.

[00:52:31]>> I will facilitate again for you.

[00:52:34]>> No, I just >> see what he's doing. He's He escalates.

[00:52:37]He escalates. You're escalating.

[00:52:39]>> I will I will talk to you. I will talk to you out here.

[00:52:41]>> So, give him my complaint form cuz you just you just you just unlawfully you just unlawfully removed me from a public building. So, I would like a complaint form. Lieutenant, please.

[00:52:49]>> Not allowed to film inside of >> No one. You have no idea what I'm doing.

[00:52:52]You have no idea what I'm doing. You have no idea because guess what? I don't have to answer questions.

[00:52:56]>> I just saw you. I just saw the film up on the phone.

[00:52:58]>> No, you didn't. Yes, I did.

[00:52:59]>> No, you didn't.

[00:53:00]>> But you already removed me. You already removed me. I want my complaint form. It doesn't matter what you saw. It matters what I what I said.

[00:53:08]>> And you're a tyrant. You know that you're a tyrant.

[00:53:12]>> This video exposes how fragile authority collapses when it's questioned. A citizen walks into a public police precinct, lawfully present, exercising his rights. No crime, no disruption, no threat. But one officer sees a phone and panics. Not because of a law, but because of control. They admit it's not illegal to record. They admit they don't know if he's recording, yet they escalate anyway. Reasonable suspicion, not of a crime, but of recording. That's the trick. No warrant, no probable cause, just assumptions, pressure, and threats of trespass. The supervisor stays calm, polite, professional, but still follows an unconstitutional order.

[00:53:51]And that's the danger. When policy overrides the constitution, when silence is enforced instead of law, and when citizens are removed for what might be happening, that's not public safety.

[00:54:03]That's power protecting itself. Know your rights. Because today, they proved exactly why recording matters.

[00:54:27]Can I help you?

[00:54:28]>> I don't want I don't want to talk. I don't want to be interrupted. Please.

[00:54:31]Thank you.

[00:54:31]>> Yeah. Well, I don't want you to have >> You better know the scope of your authority, ma'am. You swore no to the First Amendment, so don't bother me.

[00:54:40]Please.

[00:54:40]>> No, you have a >> Don't bother me. Don't bother me. Don't bother me, ma'am. You're going to get taught a lesson real quick today about the Constitution.

[00:54:48]>> Don't come up on me like that. Who are you?

[00:54:52]I haven't done nothing wrong. So, just get out of here. No. No. You don't get no respect. No, I don't care.

[00:54:55]>> License plate.

[00:54:56]>> You're in public and that is public information, ma'am. That's the whole reason for a license plate. Learn the law. Stop being a bully. Get back in your car and go home. I didn't do nothing wrong. Don't come huffing and puffing out here. Nobody's doing nothing wrong. I'm just getting some pictures.

[00:55:10]You put yourself there because you started getting on the phone being a snitch. So, I'm gonna get you and get your license plate just in case I have any encounters. I can document it. Go right ahead.

[00:55:18]>> Other than that, it would have just been pictures of the building. So, you put yourself now on camera.

[00:55:22]>> Security when you're you're filming our security. You're filming.

[00:55:24]>> Ma'am, if you're worried about security, >> photos of myself.

[00:55:28]>> So, are you a public official, ma'am?

[00:55:30]>> Am I a public?

[00:55:31]>> Yes.

[00:55:32]>> I'm still a human being, but I guess >> No, no, no, no. The Constitution is not That's not how the Constitution is written, ma'am. If you are in public and I can see it from a public, I I I can I can photograph it. You put yourself now in front of it all on your own. Three other cars gone in and out. Nobody's going to know who they were. You did this to yourself. You have a good day.

[00:55:50]>> You have a good day, too.

[00:55:53]>> Huh?

[00:55:56]I'm not afraid. I know what I'm doing, man.

[00:56:02]>> How's it going, man?

[00:56:03]>> Not much.

[00:56:04]>> I get some pictures of the building, man. She thought I was getting >> It's fine. It's fine.

[00:56:08]>> She got all man stuff. Started yelling.

[00:56:11]>> I just got to take a picture of you, man. She's like, >> "Yeah, it's fine."

[00:56:14]>> Is it for like a report or something?

[00:56:16]>> I'm not going to answer no questions, but thank you for being cordial at least.

[00:56:19]>> Okay.

[00:56:22]>> Okay. Be safe. Okay.

[00:56:23]>> All right.

[00:56:25]>> Uh, tell them I have no ill will or intent. Just getting a story.

[00:56:29]>> Okay.

[00:56:30]>> Quick followup. At the FBI's North Valley site, the auditor films exteriors from a public spot until an FBI employee in a car fixates on being recorded. And on her license plate, she pushes the classic myths and he fires back. Plates are public identifiers. Filming from public is protected, and her calling it in doesn't create a crime. Credit where it's due. The contract guards stay professional. They check in, hear no ill will or intent, and keep it moving. No ID games, no ego. The loan friction comes from the employee who escalates on feelings, not law, then bails. Bottom line, sidewalk lens absolutely lawful.

[00:57:10]License plates is public info. Security isn't a magic word. Pass for site security's calm, rightsaware response.

[00:57:18]Fail for the agents attempt to bully a camera. Keep it contentneutral. Keep hands off and everyone goes home happy.

[00:57:25]Let's keep going.