Janisse skillfully uses the "Kill Count" format to dissect the psychological trauma of Norman Bates, turning a mediocre prequel into a serious study of nature versus nurture. It proves that horror analysis is most effective when it looks past the body count to the broken humanity underneath.
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Welcome to the Kill Count, where we tally up the victims in all our favorite horror movies and show you how they were made. I'm James A. Janisse and today we're looking at Psycho for the beginning, a TV movie from 1990. The Psycho franchise has such an interesting arc. The original is one of the best films ever made, and part two is better than it has any right to be. Some people even prefer it. The third is still charming, even if not as lofty, but we've finally reached it, folks, the point that almost every horror franchise arrives at if they're not the big three slashers or Scream. The stage of direct-to-video or streaming, or in this case, TV, since Psycho IV was released to Showtime. But hey, at least that's premium TV, unlike the failed 1987 Bates Motel pilot on NBC. That one didn't even have Anthony Perkins, and I won't be covering it on the Kill Count. Perkins does return for this Showtime spectacle, which is part prequel, showing Norman Bates as an adolescent growing up with his mom. In that regard, it's kind of like the other Bates Motel, the successful TV series from the 2010s, which I still can't do on the Kill Count. Four seasons? That's way too long. Psychos II and III saw the Norman Bates lore get a little crazy, so Psycho IV sidesteps all of that. It ignores the Emma Spool stuff, even openly contradicting it. In Psycho III, we learn that she killed Norman's father, but here he says his dad was killed by bees. And Norman's freedom doesn't make a lot of sense, since we saw him taken away at the end of part three. Like if this was the same continuity, kind of hard to believe he'd get out again after murdering a bunch of people a second time. So, I guess in some ways Psycho IV is an early example of a requel, a direct sequel to the original film that ignores all the ones in between. That was the intention of screenwriter Joseph Stefano, who wrote the original film. He was excited to do a partial prequel that featured all the backstory he had come up with decades prior. I knew what had shaped Norman Bates and uh now I'm getting an opportunity to tell you about it. I think the beginning is definitely the weakest of the OG Psycho films. It's shot with the pacing of the original, but without Hitchcock's mastery of suspense. After part two's captivating story and part three's almost experimental style, Psycho IV feels like a regression, too afraid to try anything new. That's true even with the score, which reuses a lot of Bernard Herrmann's work from the original.
Graeme Revell does the rest, but his mimicry of Herrmann's style is so good it gets lost among the recycled cues.
But hey, it's not all bad. It's fun seeing Norman's childhood and it engages with an interesting theme of nature versus nurture, questioning if he became who he is because of the way his mom treated him or because of her genes he inherited. The cast is also great, especially Olivia Hussey as Norman's hot mom, then CCH Pounder as a radio host, and of course, as always, Anthony Perkins in what would be his final performance as Norman Bates since he passed away just two years after this movie's release. So, in a lot of ways, the beginning is the end. And you know what else counts as ends? Kills. So, let's We're almost there.
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>> [music] >> The movie begins with a pair of lips, but we ain't doing Rocky Horror just yet.
>> I'm a murderer. I I killed my own mother. This dude is a mother killer, the topic of tonight's Fran Ambrose show. That's Fran Ambrose. She's got a psychologist, Dr. Leo Richmond, with her who wrote a whole damn book about the subject.
>> I wrote about boys because they happen to be my sphere of expertise. Okay, but maybe don't say it like that. The first boy in his sphere was actually Norman Bates 30 years ago, and look who just called into the show. It's Norman calling himself Ed, possibly as a reference to Gein, and he's in a nice house with a fancy kitchen. He's a Fran Ambrose fan, a fambrose, and he can't believe the show they're doing tonight.
It's right up his alley. He tells them that not only did he kill his mother, he's going to have to kill again tonight. Dun dun dun. He uses the show like a therapy session and tells a tale from 1951, back when he was played by Henry Thomas, past E.T. loving Elliot and future member of the Flanaverse.
Thomas was an 18-year-old recent high school grad and this was his first time on set without his parents, making him feel like a man. Teenage Norman was treated like a man, too, getting hit on by hot little ladies like Holly here.
She's horny for the 4th of July. Do fireworks get you hot?
Not inordinately.
Inordinately.
I love sexy words. Oh, actually, she's just horny for Norman. She's grabbing his nuts right then and there. Salty. He really doesn't know how to handle her.
Never heard a girl talk like you before.
Never heard a girl talk like this girl before. She sneaks up to the house, which has got to be one of the most broken into horror houses. Am I right?
They should really get a blind vet to protect this thing. Norman follows Holly into the house and finds her upstairs trying to enter his mother's room, so he redirects her into his room. Things get premium as she takes off her top. Psycho sequels now with 50's titties. Too bad Norman ain't got no game, even with panties flying in his face. Well, is it a good smell?
Not inordinately.
>> [snorts] >> Wait, that worked on her? All right, I haven't been this wrong about a pickup's effectiveness since Chopping Mall. You smell like pepperoni.
Well, that's the way you feel. Wait a minute.
What?
I like pepperoni.
Norman starts roaming with his hands beneath the blanket, but before you know it, he's got to go check on Mom. How's she doing, kid? Get that whore out of my house. No, same old, same old. Except, wait a minute, is she moving? Yeah, dude, there's definitely someone blinking right there. But the shot from the front shows a skellion shadow as Norman takes the wig for himself. It goes real well with his favorite stabbing dress. When Holly comes a-looking for her boy toy, she gets an eye full of Mom and a chest full of knife. It'd be wigged and nightgown Norman Bates stabs her to death. Takes him a long time to do it, but get this, little bastard's already got his catchphrase down. Oh god, mother. Blood.
Blood. This first kill was meant as Norman taking out his repressed sexuality. He's all screwed up and can't orgasm in a normal way, so this is how he gets the fluid spurting. Henry Thomas got a little too excited on set, too.
While stabbing at a piece of balsa wood with a real kitchen knife, he wound up slipping his hand down the blade and cutting it open. It's my souvenir from Psycho IV. Back in the present, Norman starts to feel vulnerable and hangs up.
Just in time to cut his thumb and bring out a callback. Wait, if this is in color, does that mean they're using strawberry syrup? Turns out Norman is married now, and he calls his wife Connie, who's stuck at work, even though it's his birthday. Whomp, whomp. And even worse, she recently told him that she's pregnant. Wait, shouldn't that be good news? If it's such good news, why would I be upset? Uh, I don't know, man.
I'm asking you. He calls back into Fran Ambrose, who really wants to know what made Norman kill his mom. Did she smother you in some way?
The way some of us mothers do with our kids?
Not inordinately. Okay, his use of that line is a callback to the original, but in that movie, Marion Crane said it. Are Are you unhappy?
Not inordinately. I don't know why they made it Norman's inconceivable here. I just watched three movies with the guy, and it is not one of the things he always says. A boy's best friend is his mother. Yes, see, that's more like it.
Thank you. Norman's next little tale takes place when he was six and his father died. He says his dad was stung to death by bees, My Girl style. They stung his eyes, his nostrils, even the insides of his mouth. Ugh, okay, maybe more like Sleepaway Camp style. Even back then, Norma was fucking with Norman, tickling his sides and then yelling at him for laughing at a funeral. We can't all be bare-naked ladies, young man. After his father died, he became his mother's special little boy. They spent years together picnicking and teaing in the rain. But by the time he was 15 and Henry Thomas again, his mom was using the rain as an excuse [music] to get weird. No, not with those wet clothes. Take them off.
Yeah, 15 is way too old to have wet snuggle times with their hot mom. Norman realizes that with a stirring in his loins that causes him to flee the room.
Norma follows and pouts after him in a way that's way too close to flirting for comfort. Mother, go back to bed.
You'll catch cold.
I look you'd care.
Sometimes I think you loathe me. Then she finds a lingerie catalog and oh boy, does that set her off. She forces him to go outside in the rain in his underwear to throw away the smut, humiliating him before oscillating back to kindness.
Someday I'm going to wish I'd been firmer with you. Classic abusive behavior. Norma Bates is despicable thanks to a deliciously evil performance by Olivia Hussey. She really knows how to play this haughty, repressed, inappropriate, abusive monster perfectly. The late Ms. Hussey is an unimpeachable horror legend. She was arguably the first ever final girl in Black Christmas and stuck with the genre through fair like Stephen King's It and freaking Ice Cream Man. The psychologist Dr. Richmond says that maybe the so-called Ed enjoyed his mother's abuse.
If the doctor's trying to turn this into some kind of an incest tragedy, tell him to forget it, Frank. You're really going to deny it, dude? Cuz the next story is about a hot summer when Norma made Norman her little cabana boy.
Bringing her tea wasn't enough, either.
She wanted him to rub her down with cooling ointment. What should I use to rub it with?
Your fingers.
Unless my skin disgusts you. Oh, Norman starts putting his wet fingers on her ankles and she starts moaning and all of us start getting real uncomfortable. But don't worry, it gets worse, much worse as she tackles him to the ground for tickly playtime. He winds up on top of her and right when things are getting their damn grossest, she feels his growing confusion against her. That flips a switch and she shames him for possessing a penis at all. Looks like this is when his whole cross-dressing thing started. There, that should help you forget it. See? Look at yourself, boy.
Ha, girl. Yes, girl. Psycho IV is horrific, but not through violence and bloody kills. By 1990, those were a dime a dozen. So, instead it goes for psychological horror, like literally Freudian and shit.
>> The rolling on the floor to me was the most upsetting because I have two boys of my own, you [music] know, and I could not imagine ever treating my kids that [music] way.
That discomfort didn't stop Hussey from fully committing to the monstrous Mrs. Bates, even if she wasn't what everyone necessarily envisioned for the character. Hey, Mrs. Bates is kind of hot. Damn, mother's hot.
>> No, you can't say it, but that made me feel disgusting and dirty as a viewer because I thought she was hot and he thinks she's hot and you're like, "Oh, that's gross." Like, what if you had a hot mom like that? The hotness was intentional. She was meant to be as attractive as Norman was in the first movie, the little cutie. Norma locks Norman in the closet and I don't think the poor guy ever really got out. I mean, he's still on the floor at home having flashbacks into the phone. Fran Ambrose is getting way more than she bargained for. Norman takes a break and Dr. Richmond tells the rest of the radio station he's pretty sure they're talking to Norman Bates. Remember, I was the one who examined him right after he killed that girl in the shower. And he is in fact meant to be the same character from the end of Psycho, though their names are a bit different. Dr. Fred Richmond versus Dr. Leo [music] Richmond. He's recast, too, since OG actor Simon Oakland had passed away earlier in the decade. Everyone at the station is worried about how Norman said he's going to kill someone else tonight. Fran intends to figure out who his next victim might be, so she gets him to keep talking, picking things up about a year after his mom locked him in the closet.
This was when she found out the Interstate Highway was being built a few miles away, threatening to put their motel out of business. She uses it as an excuse to hit Norman and remind him that she almost died giving birth to him. I should have killed you in my womb. You sure as hell tried TO KILL ME GETTING OUT OF IT. And yet, Norman still defends his mother to Fran Ambrose and takes a short break. As the camera spins around them, she and Dr. Richmond argue about getting the police involved. He wants to call them immediately, but she thinks she can talk Norman down and her producer doesn't mind if it keeps the listeners tuned in. Ratings have nothing to do with it.
They do to me. Her producer Mike is played by John Landis, the controversial filmmaker who made an American Werewolf in London. He's here because he helped Mick Garris get the directing job. And the other station worker is Cynthia Garris, Mick's wife who's still with him to this day. Such a lovely couple.
They're like a pair of beautiful elves.
This is my first time covering a movie by Mick Garris, a highly decorated horror filmmaker. He co-wrote Hocus Pocus and directed a ton of work, including segments and episodes in anthological movies and series and a few Stephen King mini-series adaptations like the 1997 version of The Shining that King wrote himself. Garris was kind enough to guest on that Meetup show I did back in the day and is a beloved nexus of the horror community. His podcast Post Mortem ran for eight years and is the gold standard of interviews with horror creatives. Perkins wanted to direct Psycho IV himself, but after Psycho III kind of flopped, Universal said absolutely not. They hired Garris over Perkins' personal choice [music] for his replacement, Noel Black, who had directed him in Pretty Poison 22 years prior. Perkins eventually agreed to Garris, even though the director was pretty green, having only done some TV episodes and Critters 2, which Zoren covered on the Kill Count. Garris described Perkins as challenging and near bullying, openly questioning and quarreling with the director in front of the crew. Mick being a new director and being so young that Anthony uh really felt he had to test Mick a lot, you know, test him while they were shooting.
And it was very hard for Mick. Garris is diplomatic about it, though, saying he understood the situation since Perkins felt such an ownership over the character and the franchise. It was [music] obvious that he had wanted to direct the film.
And no matter who was directing it, >> [music] >> it would have been difficult to earn his respect.
>> He wound up being almost grateful for the experience and appreciated when Perkins said the finished film was his favorite Psycho sequel. I'm really glad I did it, but I'm glad that not all actors are like that.
>> [laughter] >> Dr. Richmond exits the station and the movie as they come back from the break with Norman still on the line. He says he met his wife Connie at the institution. She was his psychologist?
Oh, you can't date your doctor, dude.
Nobody wants this. Norman's next flashback is after his mom started dating a dude named Chet, with whom she would have dalliances at the motel in cabin one. And you know what that means?
Little shirtless Normie went straight down and moved that peeping painting, which he said was set up by his dad. I guess he's getting the pervy genes from both sides. Into the [music] hole he peeked for a look at his mom's boyfriend. Oh, and a look at his mom's boobs. If the doctors are trying to turn this into some kind of an incest tragedy. You have [music] done that yourself. The next morning Norma says she's going to marry Chet, just as soon as he gets divorced. That's awesome news for Norman. Chet has all the hallmarks of a great dad. He's got dadly advice.
You only want to be naked around a lady when you're having sex with her. And he can teach him how to box in his boxers and or be a Looney Tune.
You can't get Norman to take a swing, though. Not until he matches this movie's freak. You know, your mama swore to me you was a boy.
>> [laughter] >> You know, she said you wasn't too badly hung, either.
That's what she said.
What the fuck, man? And Norman can't even land the swing. He just gets knocked out the box. Oh, man, Chet fucking sucks. The next time Norman talks to friend, he tells her his mom is why he's so messed up. It's in his genes. He also mentions murders that he did four years ago, which matches the timeline for Psycho 3. But I mean, this movie mostly contradicts that one, so it just ends up being confusing. I really wish Psycho 4 had respected the sequels more and maintained their continuity, even if it wasn't always clean. Would have made for a better cap to the quadrilogy. Norman accidentally let slip that he's actually Norman Bates.
Before he launches into his next tale from motel hell. This one is about Gloria, an older lady who was into him.
In fact, she was in an earlier scene standing next to her husband as she eye fucked the hell out of this teenager.
Oh, man, this movie predatory as shit.
Norman excuses himself for a mo before coming back and getting to work strangling her.
No, Norman, your mother voice is always so unsettling. Also, the way you kill people, that that's unsettling, too.
Especially when it takes more than the initial strangling to put Gloria down.
He's at it for a while as the brake lights paint them red. Kind of like that stabby kill in X. Norman considers feeling up Gloria's dead body, but that's still too weird for him. For now.
He'll warm up to it later. He still has time to establish another pattern of behavior, though. Yeah, there it is. The old car in a swamp routine.
>> [music] >> Oh, wait. Shit. Is she still alive in there? Oh, that is dark. Guess I'll uh throw up the old kill graphic again cuz Gloria's dying now. Just slowly drowning in the trunk of that car. Oh, man.
You're a freaking monster, Normie boy.
Norman's next flashback continues the time jumping and is at his mother's funeral, but I'm going to hold off on counting her right now since we'll see the actual kill a little later. Right now, we'll just watch as Norman takes his mom's body out of the casket and what? Swaps it out with books? Is he Indiana Jonesing the funeral director with with books? Now, I don't know if you know this, but Norman has a hobby.
>> Stuffing things. In case you forgot, they remind you. I have this hobby, taxidermy. Norman wasted no time stuffing his dead mom's body. AND IF THAT PHRASING BOTHERS YOU, don't blame me, okay? This movie set it up with her little tickle time. Norman reveals who he's going to kill tonight, which any viewer half paying attention could have told you. You mean you're going to kill your wife?
>> That's right. He's mad at her because she stopped taking her birth control without telling him, intentionally getting pregnant. And Norman doesn't want that. He says he's got the psycho gene, the same one from his mother, which he doesn't want to pass on.
Scientists have proven that the underlying cause for my kind of insanity is genetic, but she she just doesn't buy it. I mean, whether she buys it or not, it's pretty fucked up to lie to your husband about taking the pill. Since Connie's against abortion, too, Norman's just going to have to kill her and the unborn baby. And this murder won't have any mothering involved. It'll be Norman and Norman alone, just like the first time he killed. Take us to the flashback. Norman's mom was getting her rocks off with Chet when little Oedipus decided he'd take that tea of theirs and strip some strychnine in it, or strip some strychnine in it. Like any good son, he brings them their post-coital refreshments and leaves them to it. Huh, Chet got right to work on that thing, huh? Got to replenish the fluids, I guess. Leave it to Mrs. Bates to get fucking weird about it, though. She starts dancing with the tea, moaning with the tea, pouring the tea down her chest. Lady, you are a few flickering lights short of an "no vacancy" sign.
She's had a bit to drink when Chet comes out of the bathroom puking his insides out. Chet's still Chet enough to attack Norman as his mother screams at her beau to kill her son. But, the poison weakens him enough to send him down the stairs, and in no time at all, it's killed the both of them. Norman, hope you've got a carpet cleaner around. That frothy puke will stain it something awful. Norman drags his mother's body into the fruit cellar, where, surprise, she's still alive. Man, this episode's really making a mess of those kill graphics. Norman puts his mom in a rocking chair, giving us a much more familiar angle of her.
Then, she dies. Yeah, is she is she dead yet? It's taking forever.
Okay, there it is. She's finally dead and on the count. Good job, NORMAN. YOU DID >> [screaming] >> OH, COME ON. CHET COMES BACK FOR ONE last scare, but it's still not enough to keep him off THE COUNT. OKAY, ARE YOU TWO DONE NOW? STAY DOWN. GREAT, WE CAN FINALLY MOVE ON WITH the film. Oh, WE'VE GOT THE CANDY CORN. Just had to do it to him.
The climactic matricidal memory is the final straw for Norman, who hangs up on Fran as she yells out his name. He calls Connie and tells her to meet him at his old house. We hear the conversation in voiceover as she drives through the rain and the Psycho music plays. A direct homage to Janet Leigh's driving scenes in the original film. Connie arrives, and Norman greets her with an arm grab so he can basically drag her up the stairs to his old home. Inside, the place is as spooky as it's ever been, as Connie admits to tricking Norman in order to get pregnant.
>> I love you so much.
I want us to have a baby so much. Yeah, still not okay. He drags her up the Psycho stairs and into his mother's old room. Through her closet and under the floorboard, he's got Oh, no. What is that, Norman? I'm dying. Ah, sorry, Connie. Been nice knowing you. Barely.
But, Norman hesitates, and she takes the opportunity to run. Really losing your edge in your old age, my man. He catches back up with her in the fruit cellar, but it's there that he blinds himself with a knife, like he did to Meg Tilly 7 years prior. Ha, good times. Oh, oh wait, no. That's not canon anymore.
Sorry, Meg. Norman gets a look at himself in the edge, which his wife talks him down from. She says he's a changed man, and they can raise their baby right. It'll be fine. Just don't kill me, okay? Hugs instead. To fully erase his past, Norman goes insurance fraud on the house, igniting it with a single match and not letting the ghost of his mom slow him down. Or the ghost of Chet. In fact, there are ghosts everywhere. This is like the end of freaking Doctor Sleep. Great party, isn't it? Just like in that movie, the whole building ends up a blaze with Norman down in the fruit cellar, where he finds his mama's gurney rocking her dried-up heart out. Oh, here she come.
AND THERE SHE GO.
AH, CHILL OUT, NORMAN. IT'S JUST ANOTHER GHOST. YOU'RE FINE. He escapes the fruit cellar, and he and Connie run away as the Bates house burns to the ground.
Yeah, okay. I guess not fully to the ground, but I mean, you still wouldn't want to live there. It's good enough for Norman, anyway. I'm free. [music] To do what he wants, any old time. The movie ends with Mother's chair rocking in the fruit cellar, her demanding to be let out, and the sound of a bawling BABY BATES.
>> [laughter] [crying] >> NORMAN NORMALLY RATES THE BASEBALL >> JAMES, have you seen Batterson around? I haven't seen him IN LIKE 2 WEEKS.
>> SEEN HIM, OKAY? AND YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP INTERRUPTING me during my to the numbers bits BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF WAYS TO KILL YOU. WAIT, WHAT?
UH, NOTHING. Look over there. Ooh, okay.
Drive harder.
>> [music] >> This is our stop.
>> [clears throat] >> There were only five kills in Psycho IV at the beginning, and boy, did most of them take a while.
The victims consisted of three women and two men, giving us a red majority pie chart. I was surprised to learn we've seen this counting breakdown eight times before. Feels like the red majority's happening more often lately. With a runtime of 96 minutes, Psycho IV had to kill on average every 19.2 minutes. I'll give the golden chainsaw for coolest kill to Norma. It's not so much about the method, but more about the import of the death. We're seeing mother die.
That's huge. And to underline how much it's not based on the way she died, I'll give the dull machete for lamest kill to Chet. Same method of death, but he's not mother. He's just Chet. And Chet fucking sucks. And that's it. Psycho IV: The Beginning came out on Showtime in 1990.
It would be the end of the Anthony Perkins saga of Psycho. There's still one more movie in the franchise, though, [music] which Chelsea will take a look at in two weeks. But until next time, I'm James A. Janisse. This has been the Kill Count. On the next Kill Count, looking for a getaway? Need a place to rest? Oh, I'm very tired.
>> Then why not try the best motel off the main highway? The sheriff wants you to connect him with the Bates Motel. That's the one. This fine family establishment has [music] just what you need, whether it be a hearty meal, just sandwiches and milk, a lovely view, or a good old-fashioned hospitality. If you want anything at all, just tap on the wall.
>> Just ring the bell.
And ask for Bates. Norman Bates. But make sure to respect the lady of the house. Oh, that's my mother. Or you might find your stay cut short.
>> [screaming] >> This week, make sure to book your reservation with Psycho. Again. 12 cabins, 12 vacancies. Then on Friday, go a little mad for the Kill Count, only on Dead Meat. We all go a little mad sometimes.
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