Is This the End of Anti-Racism?

Ajouté : 2026-06-10

[00:00:00]Off the back of the Henry Novak case and everything that's developing on it right now, I want to ask a question which is well two questions really. Is one, why is this happening now specifically with this case? And two, will it spell the end of our current incarnation of anti-racism?

[00:00:21]And given some of the rhetoric that we've been hearing from the politicians and some of the institutional leaders recently, will they start to pull it back to a more old-fashioned Martin Luther King uh equal in everybody's like meritocratic color >> meritocratic colorblind policing because the uh anti-racist approach has proved to be frankly just untenable and policing and managing multicultural Britain as it exists right now with these huge disparities in outcomes and huge disparities in the way that people are treated by the institutions and the police and these increasing ethnic divisions as we saw most explosively in Southport. It's just becoming a little bit too difficult to keep a lid on all of the time. They want to avoid more Southports happening, but the way the system is set up right now is designed to create more Southports.

[00:01:19]And is this story being used in a way to kind of justify pulling back on a lot of the excesses?

[00:01:28]And I'm wondering as well what the reasons for that would be because I see a lot of the um a lot of the kind of diversity, equity, the intersectionality, what was called woke for a long time. I see all of that as basically an outgrowth of managerial multiculturalism where you in the same way that you have the community service relations in America that department of the American government that sends people out in the same way that we have Riku for uh to coach people when there's been a racial incident to try not to inflame community tensions. That's all just sadly uh what a state would logically do if you've basically thrown a bunch of communities who all hate one another and constantly get into fights into a big pot together and said get along then things are always things are obviously going to explode. So you need these kind of departments and these institutions to stop things from exploding as bad as they could. But after a certain point it's too difficult, it's too costly.

[00:02:26]It's too destabilizing. So, let's look at the the situation because again, what a lot of people forget is how quick the news cycle goes with a lot of these stories. There was the huge outrage last year with something like Axe Girl, the Scottish girl who had been accosted by migrants and pulled out the knife and the axe and everybody said that she was going to be the rallying call that everybody would rally around. She was for a little bit but then got cycled out of the news story. There was Wayne Broadhurst last year who was murdered by an Afghan migrant who came in in 2020. A lot of people can see that as a direct failure of the asylum system, direct failure of the Tory government. Again, a lot of people rallied around him and his name for a little while, but then it got cycled out and he's just kind of somebody that people bring up every so often to remind you, by the way, multiculturalism causes bad things and it will it hates you and will try to kill you. So, why is it specifically that this story has exploded right now?

[00:03:22]Because I tell you what, when it first came out and it first happened, it did not have the same kind of staying power because I looked into this and traced the dates from some of the original reporting from when this happened because I've spoken to a lot of people.

[00:03:35]A lot of people don't even know that this case actually happened last December. A lot of people that I know assume that this must have happened in May because everybody started talking about it in May. And you can trace the timeline. So here's one of the original articles about the case which took place on the 3rd of December 2025. That is tragically when Henry Novak was murdered. One of the first reports on it was the 10th of December 2025. You can see this article has not been updated since then. But even at that time, a week after the initial incident and after the murder, we already had the information of Vicram Digua being the one who did it, charged with murder, possession of a bladed article, the fact that his mother was also being charged.

[00:04:17]We had some of the details. So, this was already a provocative and emotive case, right? And then afterwards, this radio silence. The most that you get is like in April people talking about student to be remembered with celebrity football match and Mandanized murder of Southampton student Henry Novak again on the 13th of April. So there was very little said about it in the mainstream news. There were the initial reports and then nothing else said about it until all of a sudden this article comes out on the 14th of May this year which gives all of these details. It talks about the trial that's going on and gives everybody a big update.

[00:05:00]And some would say that the reason this blew up was primarily thanks to X. You had people uh like Keith Woods, big fan of a lot of the stuff that he does.

[00:05:08]Europa is a really interesting and useful resource. Uh but he's saying that basically um it would have been barely reported in the media if it wasn't for platforms like X. And there are some reports uh there are some cases of people like Chris Donald, Gavin Hopeley, both killed for being white which were barely discussed outside of groups con to be considered to be on the extreme right. And this is something I see with a lot of people where they say that basically like these stories only blow up because of X or these stories are carried along by X and carried along in the mainstream conscious and people wouldn't talk about them or the mainstream wouldn't have continued to report on it if it wasn't for X. But I looked into that and I know that the X search function is a little bit hit and miss. But I did try and look for it. So I ch tried between the 3rd of December 2025 to the 30th of April 2026 to see what had been reported on it on Twitter, right? And the most that you get is a few people with very very very little attention, very little engagement with it, uh, reporting on it, saying this is something that happened. So to be fair, my first video on this was about 3 weeks ago.

[00:06:21]>> Yeah, exactly.

[00:06:21]>> That was when I made one of the first videos I think that was made on YouTube about it. Maybe somebody else did and I started tweeting about it a lot, but that that was three weeks ago when I became aware of it.

[00:06:30]>> Given the view count as well, these look like very small accounts.

[00:06:34]>> Yeah. until and then I searched between the 1st of May 2026 to the 15th of May 2026. 15th being the day after that initial BBC report that came out on the 14th. And then all of a sudden you start to get all of these uh slightly bigger accounts start to report on it with these uh much more highly engaging posts where people start to get attention. Uh 4 and a half thousand likes, almost a million views each time. So it was only really with that mainstream media report that people started to pay attention to it again. And we can we can coordinate this as well by seeing how the reaction has been since that initial report came back out. Uh which is as you showed the newspaper reports earlier today. This has been something you know I was listening to mainstream radio on my drive into work this morning.

[00:07:24]>> Why weren't you listening to Breakfast with Bo?

[00:07:26]>> Uh because I got here before Breakfast with B started.

[00:07:29]>> Okay, that's a good excuse. I gave Bo a wave before he started. You can ask him yourself. I get in very very early.

[00:07:35]>> Um, but you can see like all of the newspaper reports, uh, all the newspapers, uh, police call to drop race bias policies, arrest that outraged the nation, families plea for calm ignored.

[00:07:49]And on the mainstream radio I was listening to as well, all of these mainstream talking heads were talking about the case. And they were also, every single one of them was bringing up the anti-racial bias of the the anti-racist guidelines that the police have to go through, which is something that we've been talking about for ages.

[00:08:10]It's something that should have been brought up with the approach that the police took to the grooming gangs. Why has the mainstream media never taken such a coordinated um attack on police anti-racist anti-racist standards when it comes to things like the grooming gangs where the grooming gangs some of those girls were returned to the people abusing them by the police?

[00:08:32]>> Is it ex because you know all the journalists are an ex?

[00:08:37]>> Well, ex tried to push back on things like Wayne Broadhurst on the axe girl on the grooming gangs. Yeah. But the mainstream media, all of these newspapers, everything didn't all coordinate at once around it.

[00:08:47]>> What would be interesting to know is, and I don't know whether you've done this as part of your sort of timeline, Harry, is when Musk first tweeted about this because I think that like Musk's amplification combined with the fact, as I said earlier, >> that this is everything that they told us George Floyd was.

[00:09:02]>> But with the races swapped, actually true times 10 as far as as far as I'm concerned. I'm not saying that people's anger about the situation is is inorganic.

[00:09:12]>> What I'm saying is that >> you are you are right.

[00:09:14]>> What I'm saying is that like amplification across the pond it will be likelier given the the case's resonance to the George Floyd case. I'm wondering how much that has to do with it. And also the fact the murder conviction was this particular thing here didn't come up with anything with Musk but again Musk might have commented under one of these saying yes >> or was it was about a week ago that Musk got on this personally >> was about a week ago. So again it it seems to have been in the uh mainstream conscious for longer than Musk has been directly commenting on it if if you are correct there. But again, the question is like, well, how does this compare to a similar situation where it was just an unambiguous case of racial violence that people were furious about with Southport?

[00:10:01]>> How was that reported on at the time?

[00:10:03]How was that dealt with? Because I remember Southport happening, and I remember there wasn't some big six-month gap. It was huge immediately. People were out on the street the same night that it happened. People were out on the street for a full week after it happened. and it came across as incredibly organic. The mainstream media immediately wanted to shut it down and you ended up with if you go back to the time uh that it was happening.

[00:10:33]What were the reports? What were the headline reports? It wasn't all of this kind of like we need to look at racial bias policies. This was the most horrible thing that ever happened. We need to appeal for calm. Uh we didn't >> you saying that they're doing a tactical retreat.

[00:10:49]>> We didn't get any White Lives Matter comments at that time, did we? Yeah.

[00:10:52]What What did we have? We had Kier Starmer saying it doesn't matter.

[00:10:56]>> We had Kier Starmer coming out and making a public announcement that you're all farright thugs.

[00:11:01]>> Farright bandwagon.

[00:11:02]>> Yeah.

[00:11:03]>> Everyone's jumping on a farright band.

[00:11:04]>> Yeah. Everyone's jumping on the farright bandwagon. Everybody's jumping.

[00:11:08]Everybody's following these far-right thugs. You've got to understand if you're going out and you're taking part in these protests and riot, it doesn't matter why it was that happened. And it all culminated in this. Remember remember the way there was a coordinated effort to try and encourage people to go out to fake protests in the middle of the week that everybody went, "That's fake. That's not real." Nobody showed up except the anti-racist um counterprotests for a photo op at Waltham Stow that then every sing on this day it was the 8th of August in 2024 every single newspaper >> had this headline. I I remember that day because >> and somebody somebody in the office pointed out, "Oh, look, there's a there's a protest like five minutes from my office."

[00:11:55]>> And we're all looking. It's like >> what what is this fake nonsense?

[00:12:00]>> Yeah, >> this is this is clearly the f we're all sort of to varying degrees relatively well connected in these circles. Like when when we were looking at those actual spontaneous protests earlier, you two were talking about, "Oh, that's John in the audience. Oh, there's young Bob.

[00:12:13]Oh, there's Nick."

[00:12:15]at the time in in 2024, July 2024, we would have known about it if these protests were going to be going down.

[00:12:20]>> Yeah. And it was on a load of dodgy Telegram apps like chats that all of a sudden they were getting screenshots of this saying, "Come to this rally in this protest at this time. Don't wear masks or anything, guys. This is totally legit." And everybody went, "That's gay op. That is a gay op right there." And then this happened because the media took advantage to try and coordinate this so that either it could be a huge optics fail for anybody who did show up or they could do spin it the way that they did which was that anti-racism united the nation and pushed all of these far-right provocators out of the conversation >> therefore have more immigration.

[00:12:58]>> Yes. I think I think this is a bit of an about face. They're trying to do a little bit of a heel turn on this whole thing because they know that that didn't actually solve the problem. Another Southport is in multicultural Britain.

[00:13:13]Southport is just around the corner.

[00:13:14]>> Yes.

[00:13:15]>> At all times. And so this situation comes up and we don't see this coordination going on. What we do see is within a few days of the initial report coming out, you have people like Lords responding to it. You have articles in places like Unheard talking about anti-racism poisoning British policing.

[00:13:37]You have uh the BBC has actually been constantly on this like half of the articles on the BBC front page right now are about this and there's been at least one article every single day. The BBC has not been letting this go. In the Guardian even, you have uh these discussions. Yes, the headline says there's a dangerous undercurrent.

[00:13:58]Uh but you have Shabbana Mammud repeating that phrase which again I heard on the radio a lot this morning to police without fear or favor which was a a very old phrase >> in this country in the policing going back to at least the 17th century that I have >> I mean it made Catholics then but >> yeah that I have not heard my entire life frankly because to police without fear or favor has not been the mission statement of the British police for my entire life.

[00:14:28]>> It was in the '9s, but >> Well, I was I only lived for a little bit in the '9s.

[00:14:32]>> Yes.

[00:14:33]>> All right. And then you have uh Henry Novak's father saying, "We want to use uh because obviously he must have had Riku prep saying we want to use Henry's heartbreaking story to make change for the better. We don't want his death to create to create further division, hatred, or tension. We want his story."

[00:14:49]But what you don't get is condemnation of people who are angry about it in that this is about we need unity. Uh, we need change for the better.

[00:14:59]>> If if only if only the Romans had had a nudge unit, then they could have got Bodisier up on stage to say, "Yes, okay, I know that my daughters are being, you know, raped and I was foggged, but I don't want this to be in any way inflammatory against the Romans and we need to support their policies to bring in more Romans. I don't I don't want any trouble to come with this.

[00:15:20]>> Who knows how history could have turned out?" And then at the end you get the police and crime commissioner for Hampshire is now leading calls for review of religious exemptions on the carryings of knives after the murder. So this religious carve out that's been given to seeks all of a sudden it's looking pretty likely that's going to be taken away from them because it's a clear case of two-tiered unfairness baked into the system that's incredibly visible and has clearly caused harm in this situation. Right. Starmmer instead of saying this is disgusting that people are angry about this has come out and said that as a father I've watched the full video and it made me feel sick to see what happened to that boy.

[00:15:59]>> So he's been a lot more tactical about it. He's been a lot more levelheaded about it and not he's not tried to stoke people.

[00:16:08]>> Well, he didn't come out and say it doesn't matter which which is what he said in response to those girls being murdered. He came out and said it doesn't matter.

[00:16:14]>> Yeah. and uh asked if he agreed with Kemmy Badnock that there should be a McFersonen style inquiry into whether the anti-racist culture in the police should go um goes too far. Starmmer said that he was not ruling it out. So Starmer himself is not ruling out basically repealing a lot of the Mcfersonen stuff because that when they say McFersonen style inquiry McFersonen was the turning point for the police to turn them into this in the first place.

[00:16:39]>> I'll make a quick point here if I may.

[00:16:40]Yeah, I think that um one of the sort of un one of the kind of one of the neglected uh features of the whole history of postwar Britain in a way has been the like congenital failure of the center right to put up a good fight on these sorts of questions and given that and I would I would argue in large part thanks to the efforts of Restore Britain in dragging much of the center right kicking and screaming uh to a more sort of patriotic level-headed, less psychotic place. um the fact that you now you now do if you when you if you read the telegraph today compared to what the telegraph would have been like 10 years ago that that the Overton window has been moving rightwards at a rapid pace partly due to hastened by events but also I think partly hastened by uh the pressure that we've been putting on the kind of centeright conser conserv small C conservative establishment sooner or later given that politic it takes two sides of the political aisle to tango that is bound to that is bound to be reflected in terms of the rhetoric of people uh like Shabbana Makmood and Kama as well. So a lot of it may have to do with how quickly the overturn window has been shifting over the last two years and the fact that some on the right appear to be uh recovering uh courage that was completely absent two years ago. Yeah, I think a lot of it is to do with there is going to be uh internal and external pressure on our government and our state apparatus right now. Uh which is making it more and more costly for them to carry on with these policies. And two, just the the effects of the policies themselves, >> yes, >> are just not worth it.

[00:18:18]>> Yep.

[00:18:19]>> It's just not worth it for the sake of having because Digo was a deliveroo driver. That's what he was doing. the night that this happened, he'd finished his delivery and was going out to get some curried chips or something. Um, for the sake of having a couple of extra delivery drivers who probably aren't even actually paying any tax because they're probably signed up to somebody else's account in the first place, uh, it's not worth it for all of this to constantly be happening. So this is kind of being maneuvered and allowing allowed to be maneuvered in a way where they can say as we're seeing right now um it further down in here uh basically the police anti-racism commitment which is being reviewed by police chiefs. A national unit of senior police chiefs says it will review anti-racism guidance that's been at the center of criticism over the actions of the officers. The National Police Chiefs Council has announced it will look into policing's anti-racism commitment document with NPCC Chairman Gavin Stevens saying it is listening to legitimate concerns about how some of these commitments are worded or phrased. And I heard a lot of that on the radio this morning as well. People saying that um it was actually the people calling in um were saying like oh you know um people of color they've always been oppressed by the police.

[00:19:38]McFersonen Steven Lawrence. Steven Lawrence. Steven Lawrence. It was actually the talking heads saying, "But yeah, but how can you justify the way the police acted here? How can you justify the wording of these particulars?" So, it was the regime talking heads were the ones actually pushing back against against liibs calling in and saying, "Well, this is just what we've got to live with in multicultural Britain." So a trigger has been pulled here where these people are now allowed to point out the obvious that hey these resulted in the ridiculous conduct of police officers who immediately listened to a bunch of seikhs who said oh we've been racially abuse abused and handcuffed a dying man who'd been stabbed.

[00:20:19]>> You think they realized now their position is untenable. So it's a tactical retreat.

[00:20:23]>> Completely completely. As well as that, at the same time you have in Europe which Starmer is almost explicitly trying to get better connections and ties to in Europe. Yes, you have the big things with signing them up for mass migration with India through these trade deals and such, but at the same time you have a more hard line of anti-immigration coming into the European Parliament as well who have put through a lot of changes to make it easier to deport people. So you do have they want to realign with Europe but at the same time Europe is becoming slightly more hardline on certain types of migration and illegal migration as well. So it might be a lot of different um converging factors going on here. And then again uh you mentioned the Telegraph. Telegraph's been going pretty hard on this. Did anti-racism condemn Henry Novak to die? Yes. Henry Novak and the spectator and the evil of anti-racism. That was in May. And then we have another article this morning.

[00:21:19]Did Henry Henry Novak and the problem with anti-racism? It's quite impressive that they released the same article twice, but they want to hammer the point home, I suppose. Uh Zia Ysef goes on to channel 4 and just says anti-white racism is structurally embedded in police. So we have Nigel Farage and Zia Ysef both mainstreaming white lives matter and anti-white racism in a way that they have never had it so publicly before. they found their spines all of a sudden.

[00:21:47]>> I think this is I think this is partly my point. Uh the fact that I mean goodness knows it's taken a long time, but arguably ever since Enoch Pal's Rivers of Blood speech in April 1968, there just has been a kind of congenital cowardice on the sort of establishment center right of British politics. And so the rather than um rather than uh taking the fight to the left, taking the fight to the enemy as it were, like the right's whole sort of modus operandi since since the 60s has been to make its peace with the the kind of left-wing cultural revolution and try to play politics very obediently within that progressive framework. And not 5 years ago, you can find people like Kem Bay trumpeting the virtues of diversity, trumpeting the virtues of multiculturalism and all the rest of it.

[00:22:31]This has just been for form on the sort of establishment right. But because as I say events combined with social the explosion of um genuine independent voices on social media obviously Rbert Low is a huge figure in this and then from July 2025 2024 onwards 2025 onwards Restore Britain a big sort of institutional vehicle for this kind of discontent. It just is nec this can no longer be ignored and all of a sudden you have people uh you know writing for these magazines like the spectator like the telegraph who are willing to go to places that they wouldn't have been 10 years ago and once you know once the party form of reform that is highest in the polls is talking in this way it is impossible for for for mainstream center left or indeed centrist outlets like the times to ignore it. So it just kind of creates a cascade throughout the whole media ecosystem. So, so if you want to contain all of that, ultimately, if if if you want to contain it, you can't keep just doing the same thing that you've been doing the whole time because that has not worked. So, to contain it, you kind of have to in a certain way give them what they want. Okay, we'll ban these these little knives and give you a concession there. Okay, we'll pull back on all of the anti-racism policing and give you a concession there and make it actually so it's a bit more even and equal potentially.

[00:23:46]>> That's pretty big though. Yeah, that is that is pretty big. I'm not saying containment I'm not saying containment is always bad in the short term because um AA has said before good containment is basically they give you what you want.

[00:24:00]>> Yes. Yes. And and and look, I mean, I'm not sort of ascribing any sort of good faith motives to people like Shabban Makmood and Karma, but it is that the fact that they are willing to like you could argue that the Mc the whole sort of McFersonen report ranks alongside Wind Rush as one of the major sort of post-war symbolic myths that sort of supposed to define Britain. And the fact that they the fact that they are willing to revise the recommendations and conclusions and the and you know the kind of slew of powerpoints and uh training days and all that grew out of that which it sounds like they are willing to do that's a pretty monumental >> and and what a lot of people don't talk about the McFersonen uh report as and I think um Peter Hitchens is one of the few to actually do this uh is talk about it as part of the larger package of new labor's revolution because a lot of people don't realize the McFersonen report was what five five or six years after the actual death of Steven Lawrence.

[00:24:53]>> Yeah, it was um 9 and the death was in 93.

[00:24:58]>> Yeah. So people had it was in 93.

[00:25:00]>> Yeah. People had been sat on that for a long time. That was a situation where that was just in the background for a long time and Blair's government decided to pick that up. Oh, we want to reform the way that policing is done. We've introduced a load of immigrants into the country, so we need to make our police um more anti-racist so that they don't constantly get angry about the fact that we arrest them more because they stab each other.

[00:25:20]>> It's basically a subtle redefinition of law enforcement, impartial law enforcement without fear or favor as sort of race conscious social work.

[00:25:29]That's bas that is basically what >> I'll go further I'll go further than that. What they did is they turned the police into the power military wing of the Guardian newspaper >> more or less. Yes.

[00:25:36]>> Yeah. essentially.

[00:25:38]>> But but at the same time as you get this on the 13th of April, obviously you and Robert, you guys have all had the um independent grooming gang inquiry uh which was a great success, but the government's conducting its own grooming gang inquiry at the moment off of the back of the Casey report from last year is at the same time in April, we had this big BBC news report talking about all of the different ways in which the asylum system is completely broken and needs reform. form. And then just last month, we had the reports of net migration dropping to its lowest figures since 2012.

[00:26:15]Um, which also all uh coincides, I've just realized off the top of my head there, with Tony Blair releasing a very strongly worded letter to the Kier Starmer government about how they're screwing everything up and need to reform everything to make sure that the country doesn't just tank and go into perpetual decline. In fact, I did read that essay though and there's actually very little mention of the issue of migration in that essay. He mainly focuses on tech and the balance of and the shifting balance of power geopolitically, but there are one or two references to it. But he like to you know Tony Blair is very much a boil the frog a little more slowly creatur type of creature. He he he certainly is. So what it seems like to me is that this story is being used not that it's not that it's an inorganic story, not that people aren't right to be angry about it. It's a horrible story. It's incredibly emotive and a genuine injustice was done. But it is being amplified right now as part of a larger package from what I see of the UK government kind of reorientating itself uh so that it can cut off all of the fat >> and um stop destroying the country quite as quickly as it has been doing. Because like you say, the frog just needs a little bit more time to boil or else we're going to get 10, 20, 30 more Southports in increasingly quick succession and we don't want that.

[00:27:37]>> Gradual euthanasia instead of abrupt murder >> basically. Yes. So that's my theory on this. Let me know what you think in the comments.