Are IEMs Ruining Worship? (An Honest Conversation)

Indiziert: 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]Welcome to Worship Artistry. I'm Nick.

[00:00:04]Jason.

[00:00:06]Hey, Jason.

[00:00:10]We're >> Dude, these room mics suck.

[00:00:14]>> I don't I don't think you're plugged.

[00:00:16]You're not Are you What? You're not plugged in, man. Why do you even have your Why do you even have your in ears in?

[00:00:24]>> That's not going to work at all.

[00:00:25]>> No, it's not, man.

[00:00:26]>> They're really great at noise cancelling, though.

[00:00:29]We'll start it again. Hey, I'm I'm Nick with Worship Artistry and this is >> I'm Jason >> and he can hear today.

[00:00:35]>> I can hear.

[00:00:36]>> Well, in today's video, we're going to be talking about in-ear monitors and if they have ruined worship or not.

[00:00:42]>> Spoiler alert, they have.

[00:00:45]>> Well, when you're plugged in, it works fine. Oh.

[00:00:47]>> When did you get started in worship?

[00:00:49]What year was it?

[00:00:50]>> So, for me it was around 95.

[00:00:52]>> Okay. So, for me it was around 2009.

[00:00:56]2008, 2009. And for me, I got started in the youth program. The program of the youth with the youths in >> it's kind of like pod, you know, we are we are kind of >> the farm system, if you will.

[00:01:08]>> Yeah, exactly. Teams >> to the main stage to big church is what we called it. But >> I always thought that was silly. Oh, we're going to be playing in big church today.

[00:01:18]>> Okay.

[00:01:19]>> Yeah, come on up.

[00:01:21]>> Hey, little guy.

[00:01:21]>> Yeah, you're so cute. Come on up here.

[00:01:23]I'm like, I'm 21, man. Uh anyway, so yeah, I got started in the youth program cuz well uh getting involved in church at a late age. Um they didn't really know where to put me and I kind of gras gravitated towards the youth program cuz I was almost a youth myself, you know.

[00:01:41]Uh and then they're like, "Hey, we're starting an youth band. We're starting a praise band."

[00:01:46]>> And I was like, "Oh, right on. Cool."

[00:01:47]And they're like, "Do you play?" I was like, "Yeah." But at the time all I played was metal. I didn't know how perfect. I didn't know how to play. I really didn't. But they handed me an acoustic. Here, play this. And we had wedges >> in the youth room. Right. Right.

[00:02:01]>> And that was fine cuz that's what I had been used to playing in a metal band when we played shows. It was just wedges or just your full stack behind you.

[00:02:10]>> Hopefully you can hear the singer.

[00:02:11]>> Yep.

[00:02:12]>> Screamer. But uh so it wasn't that wasn't that weird. And then I started playing electric guitar and started getting pretty good at it. And uh they then made me play at big church and they had in-ear monitors and I was like what is this >> very fancy >> and we had silent stage and this is totally different than the youths right like they had the old stuff it was just it was just loud and lots of feedback all the time >> went to the big church and I was like this is >> this is what God wants like >> that is God >> this is God.

[00:02:46]>> You say that's not God that is God.

[00:02:47]>> This this was God. Yeah. It was it was awesome for me. I loved it. It totally transformed the way I played, the way I heard things, and how like the band interacted.

[00:02:56]>> The one thing that stunk is you if you didn't have a microphone and you're trying to talk somebody like we just experienced you you couldn't you couldn't you couldn't hear them. And so that that was kind of bad. Eventually, we ended up getting uh I uh like Avon system, but it wasn't Avon. I don't remember the brand, but you you had a talk back. Everybody had a talkback mic.

[00:03:15]So you could walk over there and be like, "Hey, hey, don't don't play so loud."

[00:03:22]You know, stuff like that.

[00:03:23]>> Starts telling jokes like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah."

[00:03:25]>> Say, "Look at Bobby."

[00:03:26]>> I think it was cool because that was the first time in my life that it wasn't just noise all around me and I could hear individual instruments. I could hear tone. I could hear the drums, everything. And I absolutely love them.

[00:03:41]>> I don't think that you love them like I do. Well, I mean, so much depends like my my in-ear monitor journey.

[00:03:51]>> We're all having we're all on a journey, guys.

[00:03:53]>> On a journey.

[00:03:53]>> Let's uh talk about that. Uh no, it is >> you know, for the longest time, so growing up, we didn't have inear monitors uh at church. There was wedges and and but I do remember a constant battle with the sound the sound guys. I do remember making the change to inear monitors >> which was terrifying mainly because you're really at the time like we didn't have AVMS or Avoms or whatever like you're really just totally handing control of your monitor >> over to somebody else which you do with wedges as well but like >> you still have the confidence that you can still hear the room if something breaks you're still just kind of like oh it's like I can tell what's going on I can see what's happening >> once we got the inear monitors and I remember we all had like separate little we all got our own little foam things that we'd have to bring, you know, pop those things on. They were they were like flesh colored. Like it was pretty.

[00:04:42]>> It was like, "Oh, it's this are weird looking."

[00:04:44]>> It's like old school ice skating.

[00:04:46]>> Yeah.

[00:04:46]>> But we didn't have compressor a compressor.

[00:04:49]>> Oh.

[00:04:49]>> And there was one time when like one of the sound guys messed something up and like feedback like and like you just >> threw your ears like Yeah. And I mean gosh >> like one guy like >> took some damage, you know, like and so was like we need to do this right. I liked him. like it was kind of like, "Oh, this is really great."

[00:05:06]>> Uh, and then I went off to college and then we didn't have them so it was back to just kind of playing with everybody and I really like that.

[00:05:13]>> And you toured right in college.

[00:05:14]>> Yep. Toured in college.

[00:05:15]>> Had wedges everywhere you went.

[00:05:17]>> We had when we were in South Africa, man, we had like this little like box on a stand.

[00:05:22]>> Oh, was it called a hot spot?

[00:05:24]>> Yeah, something like that.

[00:05:25]>> Those are the worst sounding thing ever.

[00:05:28]But you're just like, I can tell what's happening.

[00:05:31]>> I got something. Hopefully it sounds good out there.

[00:05:33]>> That's hilarious.

[00:05:34]>> Um, you always trust you're like, "Oh, yeah, the sound guy. He knows what to do."

[00:05:38]>> Then then I came here uh and I we we didn't have in ears and then we planted a church and we kind of bought a full sound like we we bought a sound system secondhand so it came with in ears and then we had in ears again.

[00:05:50]>> Gotcha. Yeah.

[00:05:51]>> And that felt silly because like we had them and we were doing all this big setup and it was like there's like 80 people here. At the time it was like 50 people here, right? So it's you're just like >> is it your current church? Yeah, current church like in the very beginning, right? We went from like meeting in backyards to like, oh, we we should meet in a room.

[00:06:07]>> And so it was like we had all this stuff and it was like this feels a little silly, doesn't it? We can we can hear everything. We just play a little quieter. And so we slowly kind of slim down out of that. And so I really like bounced back and forth. And I will say like in the early in my early in ear experience, it was it was cool cuz it was something new, but there were definitely drawbacks to it. There wasn't like there wasn't the talk back mic.

[00:06:31]There wasn't it was harder to hear what was going on with everybody and you did feel in danger. We had we had a guy >> did feel in danger.

[00:06:37]>> God God bless him.

[00:06:38]>> God bless him. Uh he would run the monitor board.

[00:06:42]>> Okay.

[00:06:42]>> And so we had a whole separate board for monitors.

[00:06:44]>> Yeah. Wow.

[00:06:45]>> And he's running that and it's just a volunteer, you know, he's guy likes to turn buttons and knobs or whatever >> for Mosaic.

[00:06:50]>> Yeah. No, no, no. This was this was back at >> at Bethany Church in Woff, New Jersey.

[00:06:55]>> Gotcha. Okay.

[00:06:56]>> Sorry, I jumped to like a bunch of different churches.

[00:06:59]I'm back in white off.

[00:07:00]>> I didn't know your church had a monitor.

[00:07:02]>> Wow.

[00:07:03]>> Yeah, it was it was kind of funny. It was like >> that was our solution. It just seems like we could have done it differently.

[00:07:08]>> Um >> but there was a guy back there and he would >> you'd have your you'd have it all set up and sound check.

[00:07:15]>> He'd be playing and then like he'd be listening and then halfway through the set he would just be like I think he probably wants more guitar and start turning stuff up being like what's happening?

[00:07:25]>> Yep.

[00:07:26]>> And you know wasn't super great. So, um, >> so I really kind of had the breadth of experience in all of it.

[00:07:32]>> There's definitely like >> some positives and some negatives. And >> you know, the nicer I will say the nicer the engineers have gotten, the nicer the experience has been.

[00:07:42]>> True.

[00:07:42]>> Um, being able to, you know, like AVM or whatever, >> being able to actually run my own mix >> was a game changer. Yes.

[00:07:50]>> You know, there's a whole lot less time going >> Yep.

[00:07:54]>> You know, >> Yeah. For me, it was like uh you know, you had said that he just decided to turn the guitar up or whatever.

[00:08:00]>> Uh that wouldn't happen in our mixes, but they would gain the instruments up like during the service. And if you gain anything up, not not the level like the the the fader, but if you gain anything up, it's going to gain for everyone in your in your mix that thing super hot.

[00:08:18]Because that's what happened to me all the time. I was like, whoa. No, we couldn't hear you out here. Sounds good.

[00:08:23]down. I'm like, I got too much, dude.

[00:08:26]Way too much.

[00:08:26]>> Why are you trying to deafen me?

[00:08:28]>> So, here's a question. I've been asked this question before. Is it taking away our worship because we're so focused on our inner mix? Before it was just we had what we had.

[00:08:38]>> Sure.

[00:08:39]>> But now we have everywhere has at least probably a Behringer X32 and you can control your own mix on your phone now.

[00:08:47]>> Yeah.

[00:08:48]>> You have Avon, you can go to that. You have P16s, you can go to those. you have other brands that you can go to these uh units control everything. And so constantly what I see at smaller churches that have AVMS or inear monitors is during service I'll see somebody like and then they'll walk back they'll walk back to the thing start changing stuff.

[00:09:09]>> What you don't see at a big church is because they have a monitor person.

[00:09:12]They'll just see like hand signals like >> you know and stuff like that and that's a little bit better but they're still focused >> on their inner monitor mix. So, I had an older person ask me, "Do you think we worship God better now cuz we can hear everything, or do you think we worship God better back when we didn't have this technology?" What do you think?

[00:09:31]>> When it comes to any tech, there's always a trade-off.

[00:09:37]>> Yeah, >> there's always a trade-off of like, okay, well, what does it take? You know, there's a financial trade-off. There's also a question of what does it take to uh to make this work? Well, you know, it's like we've talked about having, oh, it's great to have a wireless microphone >> until it starts getting interference or stops working or the battery dies or all the little things that can go wrong.

[00:09:56]>> Yep.

[00:09:57]>> With a wireless microphone that don't necessarily go wrong with a wired microphone.

[00:10:01]>> Yep.

[00:10:01]>> Right.

[00:10:02]>> Super cool to have a lot of great benefits. Also things that can go wrong >> and more expensive.

[00:10:07]>> Yeah. You know, and I for a good one.

[00:10:09]>> Right. And I look at IM and I I do think that there is something to being in many different environments and realizing that like our expectations around what we're going to have and what it takes to do well >> that that bar is kind of all over the place, right? You kind of like make the best of what you have.

[00:10:29]>> So I've always thought it was funny. You know, you go to the NM show and they're like, "Oh, dude, you know this worship happens when this happens." You know, totally. I remember there was a guy that came to my church one time and he was setting up he was tweaking the sound system and he was just he was just like a guy that worked for the company and he had this this it was a lexicon lexicon quadroverb >> and he goes oh and then you know then you turn the quadroverb on and he goes that's when worship happens >> like I don't think that's how it works man >> the Holy Spirit's here now >> but we do have this expectation of like what this should what our experience should be like what it should sound like what we need to make it happen.

[00:11:05]>> Mhm.

[00:11:06]>> And what I'll say is that like that varies in every location. And if we start getting in our head that like the only way that I can truly serve in this band or I can serve this church as if I have X, Y, and Z, you know, it's like I have to have, you know, stereo and I have to have uh I have to have everything wireless and I have to make sure that I can mix my own stuff.

[00:11:28]>> You're hurting my toes, dude. You're stepping on them over here. Gosh. But that idea, you know, that idea like I understand wanting those things, but if it gets in the way of like I don't >> want to do this if I don't have these things.

[00:11:41]>> Yeah.

[00:11:41]>> I think that's where things get a little twisted because >> I had some of my best worship times ever with that little box where everything just sounded like like >> it's like but man, we were we were there. We were there with each other.

[00:11:53]And so I don't think we worship less or anything like that, but I do look at it and go I think maybe our expectation of what it takes to lead worship >> is changing and maybe not for the better.

[00:12:04]>> Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:12:05]>> What do you think?

[00:12:06]>> Well, I think uh if you look at it from like just an earthly standpoint, >> we do I think sound better with inner monitors.

[00:12:14]>> Sure.

[00:12:15]>> I think that the sound where where I'm sitting is where it matters to me, right? I don't care what the band sounds like on the stage like in their wedge mix. I I I always heard that when I was a kid. It was just like, "Oh, these wedges sound so much better up here."

[00:12:30]Don't care because I can hear the stage volume over the house volume and I'm sitting in the house. So, I want to hear the house volume, right?

[00:12:40]>> I want to hear the the bass drum and I don't want to hear the sticks hit the toms. I want to hear the doom, you know, all of those things. And so I did like the cages for the drummers. Um maybe we can make them better somehow. Uh if you make cages, do it. Thanks.

[00:12:56]Helped you all. I hope to all you drummers just now. So subscribe.

[00:13:01]>> Appreciate it. Uh um and so yeah, just from an earthly standpoint, I do believe that we do sound better. Personally, when I go to a place, I'm like, "Oh, cool. The quality of things sounds better >> for sure." But okay, looking at it from a spiritual standpoint, does it make us worship better?

[00:13:20]>> Not at all. I I really personally don't think that. And I think if you start to think that if I can only have in ears and I can only have stereo, I can only have the perfect setup everywhere I go.

[00:13:34]And if I can't have that, I can't worship. Well, >> Mhm. I think somewhere in the line of communication from you to God, it's been broke and and he needs to step back into your life or for you.

[00:13:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just like >> No, no. The the reason why we're doing worship is to exalt the Lord.

[00:13:58]>> It is to not exalt your stereo sound. Is to not exalt, oh wow, I brought a new double bass pedal and it sounded so much better. I don't I don't know. I'm not a drummer. Um, you know, I >> It's always double bass pedals are always the best.

[00:14:12]>> Always the best.

[00:14:13]>> No, I I don't think that we're better worshippers for having in ears or wedges. I I I personally have the best experience of my life down in Haiti. The sound system was like sparking and they had a really terrible machine gun guitar out of tune and I tried to tune it right before I went up there and I just it was so wildly out of tune I just couldn't get it. And uh I played uh that Matt Redmond song uh 10,000 Reasons. Remember that one?

[00:14:38]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:39]>> What a great song. But uh yeah, I've played that.

[00:14:42]>> One of the first ones we taught on worship artistry.

[00:14:44]>> Oh, really? That's crazy. Uh >> way back.

[00:14:46]>> Yes. It's very And so this is like 2013 or 12 for me maybe. Um going to Haiti and leading worship there. Uh it was so wildly out of tune. I couldn't hear myself. I couldn't hear the guitar. It And the reason why is cuz they didn't they had wedges. They had everything.

[00:15:02]The people were singing so loudly that it drowned out the whole sound system.

[00:15:08]>> People were like, "We could hear it from blocks away last night." That was wild.

[00:15:13]>> And I was like, "That's what it should be." But what what I'm getting at I think is >> that moment of we're playing so bad.

[00:15:21]Like this is bad equipment. No tech.

[00:15:23]There was like one light bulb on in this building and it was nighttime. There was flies and bugs everywhere. awful. But then once you just started worshiping, all that went out the window. And I think that's what that what it is what we're trying to achieve or what how I want to worship.

[00:15:39]>> Yeah. It's like a heart posture.

[00:15:40]>> Yeah. Everything that's bad in my life right now is out the window. That doesn't mean it's gone, >> right?

[00:15:47]>> But right now, I am focused on the one true God.

[00:15:51]>> Okay. So, if if monitors shouldn't really affect our worship and that sort of thing. And it's like works if you have it and it works if you don't. What do you do with people who are struggling with changing? Either going from I'm used to in your monitors and now I'm at this new church and we don't have them.

[00:16:08]Got >> or the other way where you were like people are quitting because they're like I hate these monitors. You know, people do the same thing with tracks. There's kind of like anytime there's a big change. I think a lot of times we put a lot into >> into that. Like how do you approach making a transition one way or the other? So change for me in my life and I'll get to IM's I promise >> it's always been like you just have to do this. If you want to do this >> right >> this is what you have to do to do that.

[00:16:36]>> If you want to play at church and we're going to have to do so that's how I've always viewed it. I was just like well cool this is what we're doing now right >> not a big deal to me. Um, some change in my life is very difficult, but that kind of stuff has never been difficult for me. So, it's kind of hard for me to answer cuz I'm like, just do it.

[00:16:56]>> That That's honestly a really good answer.

[00:16:58]>> That's it. That's how I view it. It's like, >> come come come to worship artistry counseling.

[00:17:03]>> Nick and I will tell you to just do it.

[00:17:06]>> Just get it over with. Um, >> but I don't want to. I don't care.

[00:17:10]>> Don't care. Do you want to play on with this church? Yeah. All right. We'll see.

[00:17:15]>> Get on in.

[00:17:17]Put these in your ears. Exactly.

[00:17:18]>> I'll talk to you through this microphone.

[00:17:19]>> Yes. It's gonna be great. And so it be it would be the same if it was going to wedges because a lot of churches I play with here in town, I do a lot of worship nights and uh we've had inear monitors once maybe twice >> out of all those nights. And I've done I've done a lot. Uh most of the time we don't even have wedges. We're just like, "All right, dude. We're going to send it."

[00:17:42]>> Right?

[00:17:43]>> And you know what? like I look out and I'm like I think I'm doing well as far as like I'm hitting the right notes. I'm not flubbing, you know, stuff like that.

[00:17:52]>> And it that all that all those thoughts go away like I can't hear myself. This isn't that fun. Um when I see either whoever we're leading worship for, students, adults, >> festivals, it doesn't matter. Um, I see those people out there and they're just like they're having a moment with God.

[00:18:11]And I think that's really special and has nothing to do with monitoring >> wedges in your monitors, nothing.

[00:18:20]>> But if you're struggling with the change and if you can't just do it, can't just get over it because that's literally that's what I've told people. I'm like I I mean this with so much love and I know this will probably not feel great to hear, but you need to just get over it.

[00:18:34]Mhm.

[00:18:35]>> I think the biggest thing in our lives, maybe it's John 3:30. I think somebody let me know I'm wrong. Um, but I I I think it's John 3:30. Um, I must decrease, he must increase. So, we need to die to ourselves daily. That's how I take that. And he needs to be so much greater in our lives all the time. So, when we're in that moment of this stinks, I don't like this. I don't want to be a part of this because this isn't how I worship. I don't have my stereo mix. I don't have the perfect like triggers for my drums. I don't have everything, right? I don't have the perfect everything.

[00:19:15]You need to die to yourself. You go ahead and >> we're going to take that into the clip and we're just going to cut it off here.

[00:19:20]You need to >> You need to die yourself. You need to take a step back and allow God to increase in your life and in that moment. And then see the beauty that's already there to see all the things that are already currently right in front of you, but you can't see them because you're so upset. The enemy getting into your thoughts while you're in this moment that's supposed to be so sacred, supposed to be so exalting, supposed to be so positive, >> but then you're just like, "That sound horrible.

[00:19:50]I can't believe we're we're playing music this way.

[00:19:53]>> Well, and I think I think you're right because I do think it's change. Change is hard. It >> it is >> no matter what, you know, but I do think it's helpful. There's a couple things I do think are helpful.

[00:20:04]>> One is I think if you're in leadership and you're going to be making a change like that with your team, I think actually kind of letting them know what's coming.

[00:20:12]>> Yes.

[00:20:13]>> And why it's coming. So you don't have to be like, let's take a vote on if we want these. But if you're like, hey, this is what we're doing. really being able to cast that vision for your team >> so that they're not >> just fighting it, you know, or just kind of like, hey, I showed up and what's this new thing we got? Oh, we got to do this now and that feels weird, you know, >> I have to buy headphones now, >> right? Now it's Yeah. What? You know, the whole thing like it can just be I think if you can kind of set that aside, you can kind of head that off at the pass, right? Just kind of like, no, this is going to be all right. We're we're going to be fine. This is why we're doing this.

[00:20:45]>> That can help you get there. And then I tell people, anybody who's making a transition, whether you're doing it whichever way you're going, Sure. Right.

[00:20:54]Um, it is amazing with the human brain and body and everything how it will adapt. I just got these progressive glasses and I put them on and I was like like it's like the readers down here and then they're like middle in the middle and then like distended up high. Like I went to the grocery store and I was like >> everything's trying to hit me in the face.

[00:21:13]>> So many there's so much depth. You're just like what is happening? I remember seeing Avatar in 3D. I didn't know the grocery store is going to be in 3D eventually, >> right? So, like, so that was that was kind of a challenge, but it was amazing to me. They're like, "Just do not like don't come back to us and say you hate these. Give it two weeks." And within a couple days, my eyes knew exactly where to look for every distance.

[00:21:35]>> Yeah.

[00:21:35]>> They just learn, you know, and so like throwing in in ears might feel really awkward. I know for myself, um, >> because you're getting like those straight mixes. Yep.

[00:21:46]>> It's It's almost like you're missing that split second of like bouncing off the amp or whatever happens in between the microphone and amp.

[00:21:55]>> Yeah. They're just like missing it. It just feels so present and so right there.

[00:21:59]>> Uh >> it's it it's kind of shocking, right?

[00:22:03]And so learning a little bit like no, it's okay. I'm I still know what to play. I'm playing and like your ears will adapt and all of a sudden you'll just be like, okay, I've got a decent mix and everything sounds good and I can do this.

[00:22:13]>> Right.

[00:22:14]And then the third thing I would just say is like if you are it is because you're really hearing yourself and you can't get the like >> what do I call it? It's it's like a false effect. We don't really it's not really a true thing but sometimes we feel like nobody can hear us if we're just kind of playing quietly and you're kind of like oh going to find it. There it is.

[00:22:34]>> Right. Like you can't do that within ears cuz everything you're hearing everything, right?

[00:22:38]>> And so knowing what you're going to play and being confident that that's the right thing to play >> makes all the difference in the world.

[00:22:46]>> I will say here's a little bonus tip. If you're a guitar player, have an always on tuner.

[00:22:51]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:22:51]>> It's easy. Throw your volume pedal down, hit that note, you like, "Oh, that is a B. Cool. All right."

[00:22:58]>> Yeah. Totally right. That's what I did when I didn't know my notes cuz I was like I would swell in on the wrong note or something thinking it was right.

[00:23:04]>> Dude, that'd be a great tip. I never thought of that.

[00:23:06]>> And it's like like a half step off and tons of reverb delay and and everybody's like, "We're going this way." And >> that's how I have my board set up, too.

[00:23:17]I just never thought about using it to be like, "We're in the key of B and this is a B, right?"

[00:23:21]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:22]>> Helps if I know my notes are right.

[00:23:23]>> Well, yeah, sure. But sometimes in the in the heat of it, you're just kind I don't want to think. I'm like, "Okay, there it is. Yeah, that's a B." Or you just or if you were learning a bunch of songs like uh I just did a gig with Daniel down in Arizona. Oh, that's right.

[00:23:34]>> You know, and it was my first time getting to use these alclairs. He's like really nice.

[00:23:38]>> And I was like, >> this is kind of amazing. I mean, you like it was I was hearing everything so well. But I was like, man, I'm also hearing every little nuance of what if I'm not if I'm buzzing that note or if I'm like all these things that normally just kind of blend in. You're >> like, yeah, I did great. You're like, "No." You're like, "Man, why is this?

[00:23:56]Why all of a sudden I don't know how to play a C chord?"

[00:23:59]>> Wow. It sounds >> like what is going I got to get this guitar set up. Like it's like a whole thing >> that you don't normally hear in a >> because it's not so close to your ear.

[00:24:08]Right. So, I would What I'd love to know is I'd love to know if you've done both if you've used both wedges and inear monitors like which do you prefer?

[00:24:19]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:24:19]>> Like if it was your choice, what would you choose >> and why?

[00:24:23]>> Yeah. The way I look at the inear monitor versus wedge like kind of debate that's happened for years now is >> it's like somebody that uses a tube amp only and no pedals >> and somebody who uses a digital something and just uses all the pedals and sounds in there and they're like, "Oh, you don't need a good tone. All you need is a guitar and an amp." You're like, "Yes, that's true." But that also works too, >> right?

[00:24:47]>> It is what you want to use and how you want to use it. We're too We're We are too levelheaded.

[00:24:53]>> We too are.

[00:24:53]>> We need to >> We too are.

[00:24:55]>> We too are.

[00:24:56]>> We're also dyslexic.

[00:24:57]>> Yes.

[00:24:59]>> We uh But it is funny. It's like I feel like, you know, a lot of times you feel like you need to take like hot takes.

[00:25:04]>> Yes.

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[00:25:07]If you're not using wedge monitors, you don't know Jesus. Tell me what you think.

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[00:25:45]>> Apparently there are a lot of acoustic players that get asked to play electric guitar.

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